Notices

question about why it blew up lol

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-04-2010, 05:49 PM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
b00stedOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NB Canada
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default question about why it blew up lol

first of all, my setup-

b18b block (stock sleeves)
9.8:1 srp pistons
eagle rods
stock gsr head
arp head studs
.076 thick cometic head gasket
garret 60-1 turbo
18psi 400whp/291wtq
tuned with neptune.

After the car was tuned I had problems with it over heating. It was pushing coolant back into my overflow tank. I changed the head gasket, plained the head and it was still doing the same thing. After I changed the head gasket the 2nd time I thought it was fixed, took it for a drive and beat on it a bit, and blew the whole side out of my sleeve. I'm trying to figure out some possible reasons so I don't blow up my new block too lol.

One concern I have is when we were tuning my car on the dyno, after about 300whp it started missing a bit in the high rpm's. The tuner said it was not fuel, it was spark. So we changed the cap and tried it again. It was still missing at high rpm's. He said it is my coil. Since we didn't have a spare coil to try, what he did was gap my spark plugs to .10 thou instead of the 20 thou that they were before. The miss then went away and he continued tuning with no problems. Could having my plugs gaped so close in any way cause my car to over heat or run hotter? Maybe this is what caused my heating problem to start in the first place?
Old 07-04-2010, 06:07 PM
  #2  
Honda-Tech Member
 
th3pwn3r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Chicago, Illinois, United States
Posts: 919
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: question about why it blew up lol

It was most likely MULTIPLE things that caused the heat issues that caused your engine to blow up.
Old 07-04-2010, 06:46 PM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
 
sleepencivic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: ruckersville, va, usa
Posts: 1,220
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: question about why it blew up lol

not the plugs...i run mine tight (not .10) but had to tighten the down to .18 when i raised the boost, my car has new oem coil,cap,rotor,ngk plugs and wires...some oem distributors are weaker than others....
Old 07-04-2010, 07:17 PM
  #4  
Honda-Tech Member
 
crxcel's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Canada EH
Posts: 96
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: question about why it blew up lol

did it perhaps have a small crack in one of the cylinders that wasnt noticed, and then it finally destroyed the sleeve?
Old 07-04-2010, 07:20 PM
  #5  
Honda-Tech Member
 
smoovy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Phoenix,AZ United States
Posts: 783
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: question about why it blew up lol

is there any signs of detonation on the tops of your pistons, scared cylinder walls...etc? there can be many reasons to this but for one, Cometic hasnt really had a good running around here so I would ask if you tried a OEM gasket or was that the one replaced? and is your block square? any pics or at least some snap shots of your ignition map? could help with why this happended
Old 07-05-2010, 06:31 AM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
 
intense4thgen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: barrie, canada
Posts: 432
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: question about why it blew up lol

.076 thick cometic head gasket
^ this gets my vote
Old 07-05-2010, 07:33 AM
  #7  
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
EG6 Love's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Granger, IN, United States
Posts: 803
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: question about why it blew up lol

COMETIC SUCKS
Old 07-05-2010, 01:48 PM
  #8  
Moderator
iTrader: (14)
 
TheShodan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: City of Wind, IL, USA
Posts: 24,551
Received 234 Likes on 209 Posts
Default Re: question about why it blew up lol

Originally Posted by intense4thgen
.076 thick cometic head gasket
^ this gets my vote
That's a question I would ask. Why use a great compression like 9.8:1 for pistons then put some super thick gasket like a .076"? you just ruined the great thing about th engine.
Old 07-05-2010, 01:51 PM
  #9  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
b00stedOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NB Canada
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: question about why it blew up lol

Originally Posted by TheShodan
That's a question I would ask. Why use a great compression like 9.8:1 for pistons then put some super thick gasket like a .076"? you just ruined the great thing about th engine.
the reason for that is because my tuner told me it would be better to have the compression closer to 9:1. I used the head gasket to lower it a bit since I already bought the pistons.
Old 07-05-2010, 01:58 PM
  #10  
Moderator
iTrader: (14)
 
TheShodan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: City of Wind, IL, USA
Posts: 24,551
Received 234 Likes on 209 Posts
Default Re: question about why it blew up lol

You tuner would be incorrect unless he's skiddish about tuning with that compression because of his own antiquated experience. For the many of us here in the U.S. and Canada. 9.8:1 is absolutely perfect and actually recommended. At 10.4:1 for over 10 years w/ an HKS 3037 at 17psi on average without a "blown engine", I can attest to it.
Old 07-05-2010, 03:15 PM
  #11  
Honda-Tech Member
 
blackeg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: schooling kids in ny, usa
Posts: 9,813
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
Default Re: question about why it blew up lol

i bet you were running too much ignition timing.

and i gap my plugs tight too, but .010 seems excessive to me. what heat range were they?
Old 07-05-2010, 03:17 PM
  #12  
Honda-Tech Member
 
blackeg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: schooling kids in ny, usa
Posts: 9,813
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
Default Re: question about why it blew up lol

ok, we are running very similar setups upon further review.

i would push coolant out with 15* total up top. i brought it back down to 13* and never had another problem with it.

also im gonna assume the basic stuff like you set the distributor with a timing gun etc...
Old 07-05-2010, 03:29 PM
  #13  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
b00stedOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NB Canada
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: question about why it blew up lol

Originally Posted by blackeg
ok, we are running very similar setups upon further review.

i would push coolant out with 15* total up top. i brought it back down to 13* and never had another problem with it.

also im gonna assume the basic stuff like you set the distributor with a timing gun etc...
im pretty sure mine was set at 16*. He set it with a gun and I seen 16* on it.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
MR.johnson
Forced Induction
47
06-15-2012 07:48 AM
panda_eh2
Forced Induction
3
11-05-2007 10:08 AM
ef9_b16a1
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated
3
10-15-2007 12:59 PM
b18cx
Forced Induction
14
06-10-2004 03:31 PM
HYBRID_H@TCH
Forced Induction
22
04-24-2004 04:48 AM



Quick Reply: question about why it blew up lol



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:52 PM.