qiuck help me safc high low thrittle
08-28-2004, 02:22 AM
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Re: qiuck help me safc high low thrittle (honda9369)
Lean it out more. Start with -41% across the board and adjust from there. Pull your plugs and recheck your gap. The plugs will likely be sooty from running rich. A 0.030" gap seems to be the concensus and worked great with my NGK V-Powers.
Go into "sensor check" and make sure all the sensors are working and wired! I don't know if you used the knock sensing option, but you should see your MAP voltage, your TPS voltage and your RPM voltage.
The low-throttle is only a correction. You do not need to give it slope since you should not be boosting at low throttle. (Refresh my memory, is your car OBDII?)
I feel sorry for you guys that have the disadvantage of a MAP sensor. Tuning my car was as easy as setting a base correction.
Go into "sensor check" and make sure all the sensors are working and wired! I don't know if you used the knock sensing option, but you should see your MAP voltage, your TPS voltage and your RPM voltage.
The low-throttle is only a correction. You do not need to give it slope since you should not be boosting at low throttle. (Refresh my memory, is your car OBDII?)
I feel sorry for you guys that have the disadvantage of a MAP sensor. Tuning my car was as easy as setting a base correction.
08-28-2004, 10:01 AM
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Re: qiuck help me safc high low thrittle (beepy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beepy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lean it out more. Start with -41% across the board and adjust from there. Pull your plugs and recheck your gap. The plugs will likely be sooty from running rich. A 0.030" gap seems to be the concensus and worked great with my NGK V-Powers.
Go into "sensor check" and make sure all the sensors are working and wired! I don't know if you used the knock sensing option, but you should see your MAP voltage, your TPS voltage and your RPM voltage.
The low-throttle is only a correction. You do not need to give it slope since you should not be boosting at low throttle. (Refresh my memory, is your car OBDII?)
I feel sorry for you guys that have the disadvantage of a MAP sensor. Tuning my car was as easy as setting a base correction.</TD></TR></TABLE>
sensora are working. the gap is at 0.031 so i can leave the low throttle at 0? yes obd2
Go into "sensor check" and make sure all the sensors are working and wired! I don't know if you used the knock sensing option, but you should see your MAP voltage, your TPS voltage and your RPM voltage.
The low-throttle is only a correction. You do not need to give it slope since you should not be boosting at low throttle. (Refresh my memory, is your car OBDII?)
I feel sorry for you guys that have the disadvantage of a MAP sensor. Tuning my car was as easy as setting a base correction.</TD></TR></TABLE>
sensora are working. the gap is at 0.031 so i can leave the low throttle at 0? yes obd2
08-28-2004, 01:55 PM
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Re: qiuck help me safc high low thrittle (honda9369)
Set the low throttle at -40% across the map. Since your car is OBDII the short and long-term fuel correction will tune it as long as you're in vacuum.
The high throttle is where you should have problems. The car will not be in vaccum so the stock ECU will freak out. This is where missing links and wideband tuning come into play. When all is said and done you will have to avoid boosting at low throttle.
The high throttle is where you should have problems. The car will not be in vaccum so the stock ECU will freak out. This is where missing links and wideband tuning come into play. When all is said and done you will have to avoid boosting at low throttle.
08-28-2004, 01:58 PM
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Re: qiuck help me safc high low thrittle (honda9369)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by honda9369 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh yea, i got codes 74,3</TD></TR></TABLE>
Who wired tis? Check the wirring. you're throwing codes:
3 - MAP Sensor
and
71-74 - Random Misfire
Who wired tis? Check the wirring. you're throwing codes:
3 - MAP Sensor
and
71-74 - Random Misfire
08-28-2004, 02:02 PM
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"The low-throttle is only a correction. You do not need to give it slope since you should not be boosting at low throttle."
He's msot likely running 450's He still has to go -40 across the board for low throttle as well. Just set the high throttle and low throttle slopes all at around -35 to -40.
"The high throttle is where you should have problems. The car will not be in vaccum so the stock ECU will freak out. This is where missing links and wideband tuning come into play"
No. you do NOT use a missing link when you are using the SAFC. It doesn't work that way. The wohle point of the AFC and pulling the voltage back is so that the ecu NEVER sees boost. It thinks you've in Vacuum even when you are in boost.
He's msot likely running 450's He still has to go -40 across the board for low throttle as well. Just set the high throttle and low throttle slopes all at around -35 to -40.
"The high throttle is where you should have problems. The car will not be in vaccum so the stock ECU will freak out. This is where missing links and wideband tuning come into play"
No. you do NOT use a missing link when you are using the SAFC. It doesn't work that way. The wohle point of the AFC and pulling the voltage back is so that the ecu NEVER sees boost. It thinks you've in Vacuum even when you are in boost.
08-28-2004, 02:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by honda9369 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my turbo spools quickly. td04 19t</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah small turbos do that
. So did you get it all running right yet?
yeah small turbos do that
. So did you get it all running right yet?
08-28-2004, 02:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by honda9369 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not yet im goin to get some ngks. the plugs were fouled out. soaked</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's because you ran it SO rich You're supposed to be tunnig in the negative numbers not positive. what injectors?
That's because you ran it SO rich You're supposed to be tunnig in the negative numbers not positive. what injectors?
08-28-2004, 02:28 PM
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yea im, in the negatives. i have dsm 450s 98/99 6in 6 out -36 across the board. and my turbo is not that small. rated at 300 whp. and they r the upgrades for the 3000gt 
08-28-2004, 02:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by honda9369 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea im, in the negatives. i have dsm 450s 98/99 6in 6 out -36 across the board. and my turbo is not that small. rated at 300 whp. and they r the upgrades for the 3000gt </TD></TR></TABLE>
That's a small turbo.
Try leaning it out if you're still rich.. Do you have a wideband O2 or EGT or anything tos ee what's going on?
</TD></TR></TABLE>That's a small turbo.
Try leaning it out if you're still rich.. Do you have a wideband O2 or EGT or anything tos ee what's going on?
08-28-2004, 02:51 PM
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ok i put the new plugs in it runs better but still like ****. i erased the codes now im getting 73,74 misfire. so whick way do i lean it out. and do i lean the low throttle or what. im almost there. just need some more help. do i mess with the ne-point at all?
08-28-2004, 02:56 PM
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What are your settings for low throttle and hi thrhtottle. every single point.
the NE-pointare th e RPM points you want to be adjusting. what ist aht set at right now
the NE-pointare th e RPM points you want to be adjusting. what ist aht set at right now
08-28-2004, 03:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by honda9369 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">low is -39 across the board. high is 37,36,36,36,36,36,35,35 </TD></TR></TABLE>
Why is your hi in the positives? supposed to be negatives! or did you jsut forget to type that.
EDIT: Also what is your NE-Point set to
Why is your hi in the positives? supposed to be negatives! or did you jsut forget to type that.
EDIT: Also what is your NE-Point set to
08-28-2004, 03:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93turbo16 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">see if you have a fuel leak anywhere, did you use new seals? You might have an injector leaking, check all the plugs and make sure they are the same.</TD></TR></TABLE>
the seals r fairly new. i just replaced the plugs like a half hour ago. its definatly runnin rich
the seals r fairly new. i just replaced the plugs like a half hour ago. its definatly runnin rich
08-28-2004, 03:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by honda9369 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> so whick way do i lean it out. and do i lean the low throttle or what. im almost there. just need some more help. do i mess with the ne-point at all?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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