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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 03:37 AM
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Here's the setup: 99 Civic EX turbocharged (48K miles) with an F-max turbo kit since early 2000. The turbo seals are leaking a little bit (very, very little), the static timing is 2 degrees retarded. The coolant level has not changed at all. When starting up in the morning, she smokes a little bit, but my other vehicle do that to (new vehicle; condensation). When driving, no smokes comes out, when down shifting, no smokes comes out. I only get a white puff of smoke when I get on it, it's not a stream of smoke, just a white puff. I'll be doing a compression test this week. Any thoughts, inputs will be appreciated. Thanks!
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 06:02 AM
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Bet you are still running stock PCV system
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 08:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bet you are still running stock PCV system </TD></TR></TABLE>
As a matter of fact, yes I am. Any suggestions!! Thanks!
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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well my integra did that when i stepped on it also.............and i cracked 3 pistons!!!
tuning makes a big differance.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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perhaps you have the infamous d16y8 headlift problem.......get some ARP headstuds and it may fix your problem....
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dspeedfactory &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well my integra did that when i stepped on it also.............and i cracked 3 pistons!!!
tuning makes a big differance. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm running the fuel management that came with the kit, and I'm only running at 6 PSI. What kind of system were you running when that happened? What PSI were you running? More info or assistance will be appreciated.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicMike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">perhaps you have the infamous d16y8 headlift problem.......get some ARP headstuds and it may fix your problem....</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was thinking about that also. I have some ARP head studs on the way. Like I said, she does not burn any coolant or oil, everything else is fine with the exception of the white puff of smoke when I get on it hard (which it's not too often).
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bet you are still running stock PCV system </TD></TR></TABLE>
What is the alternative to running the stock PCV system? More info on this would be appreciated.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 03:52 PM
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Take the existing line that runs from the black box to the intake manifold, run it through a catch can, and into your exhaust with an angled pipe. Just be careful you don't suck your oil seals inside out, you can get a lot of vacuum like that.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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This is what someone else did.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Next up was this Moroso catch can I'd been staring at for a few months. I've been trying to figure out how to get the PCV to work normally with the catchcan in vacuum, and vent to atmosphere when the crankcase is in boost. Well, a few connectors, 5 feet of fuel line, 2 PCV valves and a little JB weld I'm in business. The crankcase goes through a drilled-out PCV valve (needed that size connector, but not the valve) to the catchcan located to the left of my battery, by the fusebox. From there, I have a rubber grommet on the top of the catchcan that goes to a T. One side of the T allows the crankcase to vent to atmosphere when the intake manifold is under boost. Under vacuum, the atmosphere one closes and the intake sucks air from the crankcase. Best of both worlds, but a little damn ugly! Hopefully those 3/8ths inch fuel lines don't collapse under heat and vacuum. If they do, I don't really care, PCV still gets vented.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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The PCV valve going to atmosphere is pointed "backwards" if you will. It will open up when the crankcase pressure is above atmospheric pressure. The normal PCV valve in the intake opens when the crankcase is above manifold vacuum.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 09:27 AM
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I was running 10 lbs of boost with the e manage
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dspeedfactory &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was running 10 lbs of boost with the e manage </TD></TR></TABLE>
One more question then, if you don't mind me asking, what kind of engine/fuel management are you running now? I'm thinking about ditching the F-max fuel management and going with AEM EMS and RC 440cc injectors.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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EMS would be nice if you got the $$$...and im sure itll run 440's no prob, what are you using now FMU? (ditch that asap) I've decided on running a P28 ECU (from 92-95 EX/SI) with uberdata or crome (more info found at http://pgmfi.org) a lil cheaper than EMS and its a stock ecu so you get all your codes and what not.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicMike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">EMS would be nice if you got the $$$...and im sure itll run 440's no prob, what are you using now FMU? (ditch that asap) I've decided on running a P28 ECU (from 92-95 EX/SI) with uberdata or crome (more info found at http://pgmfi.org) a lil cheaper than EMS and its a stock ecu so you get all your codes and what not.</TD></TR></TABLE>

EMS is not cheap, but it's a good stand alone management and I have a few friends around here that are pretty good at tuning it. No, I'm not using an FMU, I'm using the fuel management that comes with the F-max kit (some type of piggy back controlling 2 Lucas injectors). Keep in mind that this kit was bolted on to the car back in early 2000. That's why I'm working on upgrading the components before they die on me. Thanks for the link, I'll definitely take a look at it. I don't mind looking at different venues or trying something different.
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