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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 04:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FredoSP &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">time for a leakdown test...

As for mine .. approx 9.3:1 C/R

I got 215-220 psi per cylinder and 2%-3% leakdown (Thanks Chris @ NRG). Endyn </TD></TR></TABLE>

Why do you say do a leakdown Fred?

On my stock block D16 with 110k my numbers were like 210-215 across.

I have not tried a 2nd compression tester as this was the only one he brought with him. I am going to break it in a little more then do it again on 2 gauges this time.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 05:25 AM
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This is a 78mm bore engine and the combustion chambers were opened up to match the bore.

Anyone want to buy some compression?
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 05:36 AM
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sounds very strong. my 9:1 motor was 210 straight across with no variation last time i check it .
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 05:39 AM
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I can't really think of any reason why it is so high unless I am at 14:1.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 05:43 AM
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that sounds stupid high, i would try another gauge also
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 05:52 AM
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Damn thats high
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 05:54 AM
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I was at ~270 when I had 10.8:1 compression.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 05:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mad Cow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was at ~270 when I had 10.8:1 compression.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So I am not at 14:1 then. That is a good sign.

We will try a different gauge. Maybe that has a lot to do with it. Any you guys recommend?
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 07:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ladysman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
On my stock block D16 with 110k my numbers were like 210-215 across.
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If this was done with the same guage, I'm going with your guage reading high. Stock D16 should be around 190 psi in excellent condition.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 07:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If this was done with the same guage, I'm going with your guage reading high. Stock D16 should be around 190 psi in excellent condition.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, it probably is. Makes for a nice thread though.

I will let everyone know when we do it again.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 08:12 AM
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When i had high CR pistons in my Dseries i threw 245 PSI with a bigger cam and my CR was at 11.7:1. With the stock cam it would've probably been around 260PSI

So your CR must be close to 12.

What pistons are you running,Head,block?
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 08:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fjt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When i had high CR pistons in my Dseries i threw 245 PSI with a bigger cam and my CR was at 11.7:1. With the stock cam it would've probably been around 260PSI

So your CR must be close to 12.

What pistons are you running,Head,block?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Endyn 9.5 pistons 78mm bore
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 08:27 AM
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Gauge is definitely way off if you had 210psi out of a 110k mile SOHC engine.

If your gauge WAS good, I'd feel really sorry for your rings.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 08:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HybridKOOP &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Gauge is definitely way off if you had 210psi out of a 110k mile SOHC engine.

If your gauge WAS good, I'd feel really sorry for your rings.</TD></TR></TABLE>]

I dont think you can say his gauge is definitely way off..look at it this way your 110 mile stocker has 210psi so his 0 mile,flat topped,closed chambered motor should have more...

cliff notesnce he gets some miles on it it'll come down
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 08:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D-Man &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">]

I dont think you can say his gauge is definitely way off..look at it this way your 110 mile stocker has 210psi so his 0 mile,flat topped,closed chambered motor should have more...

cliff notesnce he gets some miles on it it'll come down </TD></TR></TABLE>

It has about 25 miles on it now. Probably less than that actually.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 09:38 AM
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check the valve adjustment again
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 09:39 AM
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we are tomorrow night actually. Also checking head stud torque. Wouldn't a tighter valve adjustment increase it?
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 09:51 AM
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Is it even possible that the cam is off a tooth? I mean, in the sense that the intake valve is closing that much earlier allowing pressure to build that much sooner?

And yes, a tighter valve lash will push the valve farther off the seat. EDIT - which also means that the valve is lifted sooner which means pressure is bled off sooner.

Just a guess.


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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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I dont think you can say his gauge is definitely way off..look at it this way your 110 mile stocker has 210psi so his 0 mile,flat topped,closed chambered motor should have more...

cliff notesnce he gets some miles on it it'll come down </TD></TR></TABLE>

I think you read a little too quickly. HIS sohc engine was the 210psi motor (and gauge), it was not mine. I would expect a sohc motor with that mileage to be more toward the 170psi range... which is why I stated that his gauge seems off by about 40psi...
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EE_Chris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is it even possible that the cam is off a tooth? I mean, in the sense that the intake valve is closing that much earlier allowing pressure to build that much sooner?

Just a guess.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I am not sure. But, we have triple checked that it was at TDC. Guess we can do it again. With the block being decked and the head having a skim cut for straightness, I would assume it being retarded?
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 09:55 AM
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I think you read a little too quickly. HIS sohc engine was the 210psi motor (and gauge), it was not mine. I would expect a sohc motor with that mileage to be more toward the 170psi range... which is why I stated that his gauge seems off by about 40psi...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Off by 40 would be a good thing.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HybridKOOP &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I think you read a little too quickly. HIS sohc engine was the 210psi motor (and gauge), it was not mine. I would expect a sohc motor with that mileage to be more toward the 170psi range... which is why I stated that his gauge seems off by about 40psi...</TD></TR></TABLE>

opps...yeah,your right,too quickly cause I'm at work
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 10:35 AM
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opps...yeah,your right,too quickly cause I'm at work </TD></TR></TABLE>

I can't believe you look at this stuff at work.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 10:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ladysman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">we are tomorrow night actually. Also checking head stud torque. Wouldn't a tighter valve adjustment increase it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

tighter will lower it cause it holds the valves open.....looser increases it.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 10:36 AM
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tighter will lower it cause it holds the valves open.....looser increases it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It may be way loose cause it is loud with that Zex cam.

Get back to work.
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