I am runing the hack with 440cc injectors but it will not run right unless at -25ish on my safc2 at idle. I called the company and got a part number to make sure my injectors are 440's and they are. I thought it might be a bad map so i replaced that. still needs to be at -25 to idle. I checked all my settings and wires everything seems fine. i have my throttle point at 98low 99high. the car also runs fine on stock injectors with my safc2 hooked up at 0% correction. this is on a 96 se (ls) integra. any ideas would help.

 

something is way off.. i have lucas 440 injectors on my y7 and i have to have it at -48 through -46 to idle right..

 

i know but i have tryed everything i can think of.

 

Someone please help this guy out

 

When i ran the hack on mine i did it at -40%----35% and ran fast
but a couple months later blew it up on 8 psi. What i did was sell
the afc and buy a moates burner and chip. Now i run Uberdata
thing runs like stock safe with no timing issues.
sorry i couldn't help more.
just my .02

 

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but a couple months later blew it up on 8 psi. What i did was sell
the afc and buy a moates burner and chip. Now i run Uberdata
thing runs like stock safe with no timing issues.
sorry i couldn't help more.
just my .02
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Wow, nice post

 

I dont think they are 440's.. did you get them tested ?

 

" I called the company and got a part number to make sure my injectors are 440's and they are." it helps when you read. thanls for th help.

 

I think you've been H@x0r3d

 

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if it idles at -25 you should get em testd ya jackass

 

the problem is that the car will never idle right on the hack or a AFC with that large of injector. I have the same problem with my afc set up now it just doesn't like to idle smooth....at 25% on 440's you are probably flooding the motor pretty bad.....dial em back and check the fuel presure.

honestly dump the hack, buy a fmu and missing link and keep the afc and 440's that is the set up I run now. you can run more boost better part throttle and way better performance

 

fule presure is set and it wont idle at any thing less than -25

 

damn, you guys are all wayyyyy off...at idle, i have mine set to -25 and i will tell you why. the larger 440's take longer to open at idle. there is no throttle telling the injectors to open, so basically, at idle, the injectors are running dry...when you set it at -25, it allows more fuel to get into the injectors and thus allows the car to idle more smoothly...theres nothing wrong with having it set at -25 at idle...now if you were running lean at say 5000rpm at -25, that would be a problem...

 

what would your set up and settings be? I had some guy who says he knows what he is doing tell me i need to be at -48.

 

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"some guys" gonna cause you to blow your motor. Best bet is to pay someone who knows exactly what they are doing and ask him to explain to you what he is doing. A local dyno would be your best bet that way you get your car fixed and gain power at the same time.

 

my setup is a t3/t4 57 trim on a b16a...my setting would be -25 at idle, -37 till 3400, then -35 till redline...i've been running my car like that for 6 months, on 9psi and absolutely no problems...no detonation, and my plx m300 shows bascially 12.1-12.5 accross the rpm band.

 

what kind of injectors do you have and what did your wideband read at idle?

 

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that is too lean IMO for a car with no timing control. infact you probably are detonating but can't hear it.....get it to about 11.5:1

 

your injectors must me fucked up to idle at -25 on the hack... that is like having a 330cc injector.. -40 would be like having a 265 injector which is closer to stock.. if you cant get it to idle at -35 at least get it checked out... from what i have seen -40 works for almost everyone, but -47 or close to that works for me... you said you have 440 injectors, what brand and how old are they??

 

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"some guys" gonna cause you to blow your motor. Best bet is to pay someone who knows exactly what they are doing and ask him to explain to you what he is doing. A local dyno would be your best bet that way you get your car fixed and gain power at the same time.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats funny cause my car ran fine at -45 at idle, and had a afr of 14.6 ????

Read a little more so you dont sould like a moron https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=137901

 

My comment was in reference to the fact that he wasn't quiet sure the guy knew what he was doing. Never once questioned the hack.

 

okay, so my car has been detonating for 6 months with the same settings, and my last compression test, which i did last month (sept) showed 210 for cylinder 1,2,4 and 205 for cylinder 3? riiiiight...i noticed my car would have an irratic idle at -43, but once i started richening up, the car idled muuuuuch better...theres nothing wrong with the injectors, its just like i said, larger injectors take longer to open...thus, you need to "trick" them to run richer.