problem with the hack
10-08-2004, 05:25 PM
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problem with the hack
I am runing the hack with 440cc injectors but it will not run right unless at -25ish on my safc2 at idle. I called the company and got a part number to make sure my injectors are 440's and they are. I thought it might be a bad map so i replaced that. still needs to be at -25 to idle. I checked all my settings and wires everything seems fine. i have my throttle point at 98low 99high. the car also runs fine on stock injectors with my safc2 hooked up at 0% correction. this is on a 96 se (ls) integra. any ideas would help.
10-08-2004, 09:21 PM
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Re: problem with the hack (eflove)
When i ran the hack on mine i did it at -40%----35% and ran fast
but a couple months later blew it up on 8 psi. What i did was sell
the afc and buy a moates burner and chip. Now i run Uberdata
thing runs like stock safe with no timing issues.
sorry i couldn't help more.
just my .02
but a couple months later blew it up on 8 psi. What i did was sell
the afc and buy a moates burner and chip. Now i run Uberdata
thing runs like stock safe with no timing issues.
sorry i couldn't help more.
just my .02
10-08-2004, 09:29 PM
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Re: problem with the hack (gotboost95)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gotboost95 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When i ran the hack on mine i did it at -40%----35% and ran fast
but a couple months later blew it up on 8 psi. What i did was sell
the afc and buy a moates burner and chip. Now i run Uberdata
thing runs like stock safe with no timing issues.
sorry i couldn't help more.
just my .02
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Wow, nice post
but a couple months later blew it up on 8 psi. What i did was sell
the afc and buy a moates burner and chip. Now i run Uberdata
thing runs like stock safe with no timing issues.
sorry i couldn't help more.
just my .02
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Wow, nice post
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10-08-2004, 09:33 PM
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Re: problem with the hack (ae86gsr)
" I called the company and got a part number to make sure my injectors are 440's and they are." it helps when you read. thanls for th help.
10-08-2004, 09:36 PM
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Re: problem with the hack (eflove)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eflove »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">" I called the company and got a part number to make sure my injectors are 440's and they are." it helps when you read. thanls for th help.</TD></TR></TABLE>
if it idles at -25 you should get em testd ya jackass
if it idles at -25 you should get em testd ya jackass
10-08-2004, 09:48 PM
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Re: problem with the hack (blackANESE)
the problem is that the car will never idle right on the hack or a AFC with that large of injector. I have the same problem with my afc set up now it just doesn't like to idle smooth....at 25% on 440's you are probably flooding the motor pretty bad.....dial em back and check the fuel presure.
honestly dump the hack, buy a fmu and missing link and keep the afc and 440's that is the set up I run now. you can run more boost better part throttle and way better performance
honestly dump the hack, buy a fmu and missing link and keep the afc and 440's that is the set up I run now. you can run more boost better part throttle and way better performance
10-08-2004, 10:42 PM
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damn, you guys are all wayyyyy off...at idle, i have mine set to -25 and i will tell you why. the larger 440's take longer to open at idle. there is no throttle telling the injectors to open, so basically, at idle, the injectors are running dry...when you set it at -25, it allows more fuel to get into the injectors and thus allows the car to idle more smoothly...theres nothing wrong with having it set at -25 at idle...now if you were running lean at say 5000rpm at -25, that would be a problem...
10-08-2004, 11:30 PM
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Re: (eflove)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eflove »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what would your set up and settings be? I had some guy who says he knows what he is doing tell me i need to be at -48. 
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"some guys" gonna cause you to blow your motor. Best bet is to pay someone who knows exactly what they are doing and ask him to explain to you what he is doing. A local dyno would be your best bet that way you get your car fixed and gain power at the same time.
</TD></TR></TABLE>"some guys" gonna cause you to blow your motor. Best bet is to pay someone who knows exactly what they are doing and ask him to explain to you what he is doing. A local dyno would be your best bet that way you get your car fixed and gain power at the same time.
10-09-2004, 05:54 AM
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my setup is a t3/t4 57 trim on a b16a...my setting would be -25 at idle, -37 till 3400, then -35 till redline...i've been running my car like that for 6 months, on 9psi and absolutely no problems...no detonation, and my plx m300 shows bascially 12.1-12.5 accross the rpm band.
10-09-2004, 08:17 PM
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Re: (mattcalica)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mattcalica »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my setup is a t3/t4 57 trim on a b16a...my setting would be -25 at idle, -37 till 3400, then -35 till redline...i've been running my car like that for 6 months, on 9psi and absolutely no problems...no detonation, and my plx m300 shows bascially 12.1-12.5 accross the rpm band.</TD></TR></TABLE>
that is too lean IMO for a car with no timing control. infact you probably are detonating but can't hear it.....get it to about 11.5:1
that is too lean IMO for a car with no timing control. infact you probably are detonating but can't hear it.....get it to about 11.5:1
10-09-2004, 11:01 PM
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your injectors must me fucked up to idle at -25 on the hack... that is like having a 330cc injector.. -40 would be like having a 265 injector which is closer to stock.. if you cant get it to idle at -35 at least get it checked out... from what i have seen -40 works for almost everyone, but -47 or close to that works for me... you said you have 440 injectors, what brand and how old are they??
10-09-2004, 11:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MAD SOHC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
"some guys" gonna cause you to blow your motor. Best bet is to pay someone who knows exactly what they are doing and ask him to explain to you what he is doing. A local dyno would be your best bet that way you get your car fixed and gain power at the same time.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats funny cause my car ran fine at -45 at idle, and had a afr of 14.6 ????
Read a little more so you dont sould like a moron https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=137901
"some guys" gonna cause you to blow your motor. Best bet is to pay someone who knows exactly what they are doing and ask him to explain to you what he is doing. A local dyno would be your best bet that way you get your car fixed and gain power at the same time.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats funny cause my car ran fine at -45 at idle, and had a afr of 14.6 ????
Read a little more so you dont sould like a moron https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=137901
10-10-2004, 05:13 AM
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okay, so my car has been detonating for 6 months with the same settings, and my last compression test, which i did last month (sept) showed 210 for cylinder 1,2,4 and 205 for cylinder 3? riiiiight...i noticed my car would have an irratic idle at -43, but once i started richening up, the car idled muuuuuch better...theres nothing wrong with the injectors, its just like i said, larger injectors take longer to open...thus, you need to "trick" them to run richer.
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