ochsy03

im currently buildin my motor (b16a2) for about 375-400whp

would buying this block be an overkill? or wouldnt it matter?

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1142462

also would it put out higher whp's than just GE sleeved 84mm..wiseco pistons, eagle rods?

thanks

B20TDC2

it soundslike a great block. to me there's really no such thing as overkill. i would go with what my budget would allow. its got some of the best that money can buy

getnasty

I would rather be safer than sorry

B20TDC2

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bottle fed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would rather be safer than sorry </TD></TR></TABLE>

stealthmode62

I think the best part of a motor build is actually putting it together and learning more and more everytime you do it. If you were going to have someone build your current motor, than buy whichever one you can afford.

ochsy03

yea its a nice block i just didnt know if my whp #'s were good for that block..

turboEGhatch

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ochsy03 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im currently buildin my motor (b16a2) for about 375-400whp

would buying this block be an overkill? or wouldnt it matter?

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1142462

also would it put out higher whp's than just GE sleeved 84mm..wiseco pistons, eagle rods?

thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

Considering that's stroked out to over 2 litres, yes, it would make significantly more torque and more power than your B16.

ochsy03

ahhhhh i really want this and i got the $$, would it matter what compression piston they are? i still dont understand..the motor is built for 800hp, wouldnt it be better to build a block that can hold like 500hp for my setup? would u guys buy this block in my situation? thanks again for the help..its just i really wanna make sure its the right decision!!

turboEGhatch

You don't build a motor that will take exactly 800 hp, he just threw some arbitrary number out there. A "500 HP" build would be something like stock sleeves with pistons and rods, although that has been shown to take a lot more than 500 HP. If you're building a motor, other than cost, there is absolutely no reason to go with the strongest parts available, so no, a "500 HP" built motor would not be better for your application than an "800 HP" built motor.

I would find out the bore on that motor. It sounds like it's 84.5 or 85MM, which ain't the best choice for a street car. I would probably just throw pistons/rods in your stock sleeves and call it a day.

ochsy03

yea the bore is 84.5mm...well im for sure gonna sleeve my block, anyone runnin the t3/t4 turbonetics from the drag gen III kit? what kind of #'s are u guys puttin out at like 18psi?

B20TDC2

who says 84.5mm isn't good for a street car ? that's what im running and have no problems with what so ever . just throwing rods and pistons in a block isn't going to make it bullet prof why not just buy the built block now , its inevitable that he will build one sooner or later everyone gets the urge to up the boost . it would be better for him to have the built block now than have to fork over the loot later on after hes already put pistons and rods in the stock block. 84.5mm is no problem on the street just make sure its tuned right and everything will work out good for you

turboEGhatch

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B20TDC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">who says 84.5mm isn't good for a street car ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Melt one piston and need to resleeve your motor, and tell me how awesome that extra 5 WHP you got out of that extra 1.5mm instead of going 83mm bore is. THAT is why I don't like to start off at 84.5mm.

ochsy03

yea i know acouple people that run 84mm in there gsr, this is just a huge decision for me and i wanna make sure its the right decision

B20TDC2

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Melt one piston and need to resleeve your motor, and tell me how awesome that extra 5 WHP you got out of that extra 1.5mm instead of going 83mm bore is. THAT is why I don't like to start off at 84.5mm.</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you would read my sn you would see b20tdc2 now if your such a geninus you would know that a b20 has 84mm bore stock not 83. and your such a know it all how do you tell him to get rods and pistons in a stock block answer me this if you crack one sleeve what do you have to do resleeve and odds are you are going to need new pistons also so you tell me how awesome that would be. with the built block in ? i doubt he will have any problems with it hell my block has been run in 2 cars of mine @ 18lbs of boost with no problems and it has not been babied. i beat on it every chance i get.

turboEGhatch

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B20TDC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

if you would read my sn you would see b20tdc2 now if your such a geninus you would know that a b20 has 84mm bore stock not 83. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You do know that aftermarket sleeves are made at 81mm, and then bored out to whatever size you want, right? So you can have your B20 sleeved to 83mm. Shocking, I know.

Secondly, I can't even understand what you're trying to say here.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B20TDC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and your such a know it all how do you tell him to get rods and pistons in a stock block answer me this if you crack one sleeve what do you have to do resleeve and odds are you are going to need new pistons also so you tell me how awesome that would be.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So try rewording that with some nice punctuation, etc.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B20TDC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i doubt he will have any problems with it hell my block has been run in 2 cars of mine @ 18lbs of boost with no problems and it has not been babied. i beat on it every chance i get. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Good for you. Do you think that everybody has a great tuner? Do you think that everybody is invincible from a clogged injector? Failing fuel pump? Stuck wastegate? Bad tank of gas? Fact is there are lots, and lots of things that can go wrong on your car at any time, and I'd rather have the option of saving myself a thousand dollars to sacrifice 5 whp, rather than tell how great my 84.5mm motor is but be fucked if anything ever happens to it.

B20TDC2

man just go with what you feel comfortable with. the block you are looking at will more than likely last you for a long time. its up to you how much you spend and what quality parts you buy . that block has some of the best parts money can buy. and it sounds like it was built as a replacement for someone who is no longer needing it thier lose is your gain imo


Modified by B20TDC2 at 9:28 PM 3/10/2005

ochsy03

yea my 99 si has 49xxx miles on it and am lookin to keep it for along time...yea i think im gonna call the guy and order it