Bugbee9131

What's up guys. New to this site. Feel free to give your input, negative or positive it's all welcomed. I'm in the process of building a b16. Realistically looking at 500whp but capable of slightly more.

B16a3.
Block is sent to CSS right now, cylinder support, full service machining on block and he will do my assembly.
9.5 to 1 wiseco pistons
Crower h rods
ARP main studs
Micropolish crank
Moroso oil pan
Acl bearings

Top end is in my garage ready to go
Skunk 2 valves, springs, retainers
Skunk 2 intake and TB
Skunk 2 pro 1 cams and gears
Skunk 2 composite fuel rail or aem ( I have both)
3 angle job and its been flow checked and decked

Haven't bought or decided on the induction and fuel&igniton setup. I will be running a aem standalone which will be tuned at MDR performance. This will be dropped into a eg hatch, goal is constant low 10's and possibly 9's

TheShodan

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https://honda-tech.com/forced-induct...turbo-3246955/

HansDelSolo

Is the purpose of your vehicle to be a track car or daily driver?

Bugbee9131

Weekend fun / strip car. Mostly to race but I want to keep the ability to cruise on a nice day

HansDelSolo

So nos is out if you want street legal. Turbocharge it with water methanol injection. You should meet your hp goal.

Bugbee9131

I live in a town outside Houston. Everything is legal here. I was planning to use 50 shots on launch and through gear

HansDelSolo

If you can use nos, thats the way to go. Here in sunny Florida, cops love to impound vehicles.

wantboost

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If you already have the pistons in standard bore (81mm) you're in trouble. The CSS process requires you to go up in bore diameter to 81.5mm. Obviously an 81mm piston in an 81.5mm bore won't work.

Until you have the engine broken in and the car properly tuned stay away from nitrous, it will only make the process more complicated and you risk breaking things early on.

With a power goal of 500hp on a B16 turbo selection will be crucial. Given your lack of displacement and lower torque production due to the shorter stroke any turbo will be slower to respond, however it won't be slow enough to justify using nitrous to decrease lag. Depending on your budget, a properly sized turbo with the right turbo manifold along with things like ceramic coating and heat wrap/turbine blankets you can have a highly responsive setup without anything like nitrous making it more complicated.

What fuel are you planning on running? You won't be making 500 on 93 with a 1.6l motor. You don't have enough displacement to make the power before you run into the chemical detonation limit of the fuel. Nitrous won't help much either as you won't be using it all of the time. Water/Methanol injection with a minimum ratio of 50/50 (closer to 70% methanol would be better since you can start using the methanol as a fuel/octane source while still having the detonation suppression/IAT reduction from the water) will definitely be required. Either than or run E85.

You need to read the Forced Induction FAQ that is stickied at the top of this forum before purchasing any parts or getting in too deep

Bugbee9131

Yes the size is 81.5.. I've spoke to the guy a few times before I shipped the block off. No I won't attempt 500whp on pump gas although its possible but it won't last long. I'm not a Honda god of knowledge but I get by. I was mainly looking for options, etc personal experience. Set ups . but yes I'll check out that forum to see what's up.

DC4KiD

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I say go with smaller cams, like ITR/CTR cams. The use of Pro-1 cams will require you to run a turbo that has a minimum flow rate of 61 lb/min.

wantboost

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Yea the Pro1s are entirely too much cam for your goals. It would shift the powerband so high in the RPM range it would almost be un-driveable.

A good choice are the GSC T1s, everyone says they have a minimum turbocharger flow like the Pro1s but those who have used them on medium frame turbochargers have had nothing but amazing results... faster spool, gobs more torque, while still having good high rpm power

Bugbee9131

The parts are purchased and I will continue on my build plan. I did more research and I still feel like the pro 1 is a good cam setup. Obviously once its all said and done, the results will either be **** or in my favor. Either way I'll dig enough in my pockets to reach a semi safe 500whp if not more

wantboost

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the Pro1 is too much cam... The profile, ramp rate, duration, and lift are all far too aggressive for such low power.

Trust us, other people have tried the cams on smaller turbos, they didn't work...

Bugbee9131

Who said I was using a small turbo? The research and personal face to face experience I've seen with the pro 1 cams was pretty good. Gt 35r or bigger of course.. I 100% agree that if you plan to use a smaller turbo then these cams isn't the right choice

TheShodan

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Ok fine. But you're assuming that when you're looking for 500whp, that we mean to use something as large as a GT35R. Plenty of other turbos can do that without a problem.

We can't read your mind, sir.

wantboost

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turbocharger size is irrelevant here. at 500hp the Pro1s are too much cam.

Also no one runs something as large as a GT35R to only make 500hp

LightningTeg

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wantboost

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basically