Does anyone know where I can get an 02 sim for a good price for obd2? Or if there is a way to get around it? here are pics of the dp

 

i have one i mad it my self. ill send it to you for 25$ PM me

 

mkteller.com

try and get a caspers electronics one though, its plug and play

 

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https://www.casperselectronics...honda

 

i don't think you really need one. when I was still obd2 I had installed a test pipe and threw a cel, but the car never ran any different with the cel.

 

It wouldn't run any different. The secondary O2 sensor has nothing to do with fueling. A trouble code related to the secondary sensor will not cause the car to run in open loop. Having the light on all the time is annoying, though.

 

it wouldn't effect the fuel at all? I am going to run emanage and boost. I thought since all the sensors aren't working it would throw it into open loop?

 

Not all trouble codes trigger open loop.

 

but my car is throwing a cel for the secondary o2 sensor now becasue my cat is gutted

 

That's expected.

 

The way to solve that problem is to take the bulb out of the CEL.

 

thanks for the info I thought it would affect it. I'll install the kit this weekend and get the 02 sm next week so I can tell when there is a new cell I should worry about.

 

this is what i did and it works fine

let the secondary o2 sensor be open to the atmosphere.
i just ziptied mine up out of the way and it costs nothing.
and no CEL

if you dont want to spend the money on an o2 simulator then use the handy ziptie

 

^ what year car do you have? obd1?

 

By the look of his sig, he's got a 97 something...so he's OBD-II. I don't think any OBD-1 cars came with a secondary o2 sensor anyhow.

 

what if u dont have the plug and play feature and u have to wire it in?? i have missing wrining for the 2nd o2?
what would u do?
thanks


Modified by ki11a8ee at 3:40 AM 2/4/2005

 

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screw closed loop anyways. I run my car in open loop all the time. Its much safer for turbo imo. Just make sure you tune the partial throttle maps and you will be fine. I'm not sure if you can do anything about this with obd2 and emanage though .

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evanmb44 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this is what i did and it works fine

let the secondary o2 sensor be open to the atmosphere.
i just ziptied mine up out of the way and it costs nothing.
and no CEL

if you dont want to spend the money on an o2 simulator then use the handy ziptie</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bingo. Works like a charm. Only real problem with doing that, though, is finding something likely to stuff into the secondary O2 bung... oh, dear, how ever shall we manage???

 

if you want to get rid of the cel w/o a simulator all you have to do is cut the secondary O2 sensor signal wire going to the ecu... Make sure you keep the sensor plugged in because the heater has to work, if you dont want it in the exhaust just put some aluminium foil around it and zip tie it to the heat shield. This is how I did mine and never got a CEL.

 

So everyone agrees that If i just wrap it up and pull it from the bung it will be ok? what should I use to plug the whole then?

 

http://www.innovatemotorsports...age=1 a plug

 

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ATPturbo.com also sells an o2 bung block off bolt.

 

nice. thanks alot for the help everyone