nitrous oxide
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nitrous oxide
alright my friends uncle hooked me up with a full bottle of nitrous...the difference is that it is medical grade n2o and when I spray its as if im not spraying at all...now is there a difference between this n2o and the n2o you get at performance shops? help please
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Re: nitrous oxide (97hb)
There's a world of difference between medical, foodservice, and automotive N2O. The Sulpher in Automotive N2O is a byproduct of its combustion and it's not as refined or intended for human injestion. Medical N2O has less actual usable Oxygen because a human body isn't intended for that mass of oxygen but it's thinned out with other stabilizers so it dosen't cause braindamage when taken for long periods . The Nitrogen is just a propellant and just serves to get the oxygen to your engine, nose, or food. Foodservice N2O has the lowest concentration of oxygen because it's going to be ingested orally. Nitrogen isn't a positive chemical in the human body and does a real number on nerve tissue. BTW: Auto N2O will never make someone laugh unless they think it does, and Medical N2O won't cool your air unless you think it does. Foodservice N2O is useless.
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Re: nitrous oxide (1316130057)
well the bottle psi was like 1500....and about the foodservice, medical, and auto n2o....so is the medical grade effecting it or is it something wrong with the zex brain?
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Re: nitrous oxide (n2oteg)
oh yeah is anyone running the zex kit cause i know zex brain reads how much fuel your getting so with my car running lean would that have anything to do with why its like im not spraying?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1316130057 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's a world of difference between medical, foodservice, and automotive N2O. The Sulpher in Automotive N2O is a byproduct of its combustion and it's not as refined or intended for human injestion. Medical N2O has less actual usable Oxygen because a human body isn't intended for that mass of oxygen but it's thinned out with other stabilizers so it dosen't cause braindamage when taken for long periods . The Nitrogen is just a propellant and just serves to get the oxygen to your engine, nose, or food. Foodservice N2O has the lowest concentration of oxygen because it's going to be ingested orally. Nitrogen isn't a positive chemical in the human body and does a real number on nerve tissue. BTW: Auto N2O will never make someone laugh unless they think it does, and Medical N2O won't cool your air unless you think it does. Foodservice N2O is useless. </TD></TR></TABLE>
AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH, what the hell are you talking about!?
AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH, what the hell are you talking about!?
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Re: nitrous oxide (AzCivic1.6)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AzCivic1.6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH, what the hell are you talking about!?</TD></TR></TABLE>
:sigh: long story short, medical grade N2O = Not the same as Auto N2O = Not the same as Foodservice N2O (incase anyone was thinking of using it). You car could be running ritch as hell, but ZEX nor any other nitrous kit will not show any increase in HP with foodservice or medical N2O. BTW: The ZEX brain runs off the knock sensor, not the O2 Sensor.
Fugg. I'm still on this BS 5 posts per 24hr period ban so I'll have to respond to the post below me by editing:
AzCivic1.6:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">N2O is 2 parts nitrogen and one part oxygen no matter what its used for. you're confused.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And the air you're breathing is 100% oxygen right? Wrong. The content of a bottle of medical grade N2O isn't the same as the content of a bottle of the auto grade. There's less usable N2O in the medical grade and even less still in foodservice N2O which is what I've been trying to say. If all nitrous were the same then there wouldn't be a grading scale for it, now would there?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the sulfer in automotive n20 is NOT a byproduct of its combustion, its placed there so people DONT injest it.
mike</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's gotta be one of the stupidest things I've ever read. By your reasoning, coolant contains Ethelyne Gycol so it's nice and super sweet when you drink it. As an FYI: Nitrous Oxide produces sulphur when it is combusted or when it breaks down. It combines with the left over oxygen to become Sulphur Dioxide (SO2 which appears brown). Sniff that stuff and say goodnight. The sulpher present also decarbonizes your valves and combustion chamber which releases even more garbage that you can't ingest (CO2 - Carbon Dioxide). It's reasons like these that 2 different coalitions (N.E.R.C. and G.A.N.E) are pushing to ban nitrous oxide in autos (and many other sources of N2O that even come naturally in the environment) by 2010. As a matter of fact, for quite some time now, combustion-power plants (like coal burning plants) were required to add catalysts to reduce sulphur and nitrogen content before the fumes were released into the atmosphere. Sulphur had nothing to do with the inital fuels they were combusting, but sure enough after combustion there it was.
I'll play along though...lets say that sulphur were intentionally added to Nitrous Oxide because it can harm you, wouldn't that mean to say (since medical N2O 'has no sulphur' ) that nitrogen is toxic (since it IS a greenhouse gas) and shouldn't be ingested?! "Well wait a second BIGBOOST...if it's toxic, then how do we inhale it at the dentists office?!" Exactly. Once again, medical grade N2O is a joke compared to auto because it's thinned out. But hey...what do I know. Don't believe that crap that Commercial nitrous companies give to the public about "so people don't inhale it" because you can buy refined N2O over-the-counter just as easily as you can buy a CO2 cartridge. They sell you this garbage that already has a relatively high concentration of wasted N2O already present because they sell millions of gallons of it a year, and buying refined N2O eats away at the ol' profit margin. Same crap with US gas vs Everywhere elses gas.
Consider your self excessively schooled.
Modified by 1316130057 at 6:44 AM 5/5/2004
AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH, what the hell are you talking about!?</TD></TR></TABLE>
:sigh: long story short, medical grade N2O = Not the same as Auto N2O = Not the same as Foodservice N2O (incase anyone was thinking of using it). You car could be running ritch as hell, but ZEX nor any other nitrous kit will not show any increase in HP with foodservice or medical N2O. BTW: The ZEX brain runs off the knock sensor, not the O2 Sensor.
Fugg. I'm still on this BS 5 posts per 24hr period ban so I'll have to respond to the post below me by editing:
AzCivic1.6:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">N2O is 2 parts nitrogen and one part oxygen no matter what its used for. you're confused.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And the air you're breathing is 100% oxygen right? Wrong. The content of a bottle of medical grade N2O isn't the same as the content of a bottle of the auto grade. There's less usable N2O in the medical grade and even less still in foodservice N2O which is what I've been trying to say. If all nitrous were the same then there wouldn't be a grading scale for it, now would there?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the sulfer in automotive n20 is NOT a byproduct of its combustion, its placed there so people DONT injest it.
mike</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's gotta be one of the stupidest things I've ever read. By your reasoning, coolant contains Ethelyne Gycol so it's nice and super sweet when you drink it. As an FYI: Nitrous Oxide produces sulphur when it is combusted or when it breaks down. It combines with the left over oxygen to become Sulphur Dioxide (SO2 which appears brown). Sniff that stuff and say goodnight. The sulpher present also decarbonizes your valves and combustion chamber which releases even more garbage that you can't ingest (CO2 - Carbon Dioxide). It's reasons like these that 2 different coalitions (N.E.R.C. and G.A.N.E) are pushing to ban nitrous oxide in autos (and many other sources of N2O that even come naturally in the environment) by 2010. As a matter of fact, for quite some time now, combustion-power plants (like coal burning plants) were required to add catalysts to reduce sulphur and nitrogen content before the fumes were released into the atmosphere. Sulphur had nothing to do with the inital fuels they were combusting, but sure enough after combustion there it was.
I'll play along though...lets say that sulphur were intentionally added to Nitrous Oxide because it can harm you, wouldn't that mean to say (since medical N2O 'has no sulphur' ) that nitrogen is toxic (since it IS a greenhouse gas) and shouldn't be ingested?! "Well wait a second BIGBOOST...if it's toxic, then how do we inhale it at the dentists office?!" Exactly. Once again, medical grade N2O is a joke compared to auto because it's thinned out. But hey...what do I know. Don't believe that crap that Commercial nitrous companies give to the public about "so people don't inhale it" because you can buy refined N2O over-the-counter just as easily as you can buy a CO2 cartridge. They sell you this garbage that already has a relatively high concentration of wasted N2O already present because they sell millions of gallons of it a year, and buying refined N2O eats away at the ol' profit margin. Same crap with US gas vs Everywhere elses gas.
Consider your self excessively schooled.
Modified by 1316130057 at 6:44 AM 5/5/2004
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Re: nitrous oxide (1316130057)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1316130057 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's a world of difference between medical, foodservice, and automotive N2O. The Sulpher in Automotive N2O is a byproduct of its combustion and it's not as refined or intended for human injestion. </TD></TR></TABLE>
the sulfer in automotive n20 is NOT a byproduct of its combustion, its placed there so people DONT injest it.
mike
the sulfer in automotive n20 is NOT a byproduct of its combustion, its placed there so people DONT injest it.
mike
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the sulfer in automotive n20 is NOT a byproduct of its combustion, its placed there so people DONT injest it.
mike</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah that too.
the sulfer in automotive n20 is NOT a byproduct of its combustion, its placed there so people DONT injest it.
mike</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah that too.
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Re:Back to school again....
Just in case this was missed:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">AzCivic1.6:
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N2O is 2 parts nitrogen and one part oxygen no matter what its used for. you're confused.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And the air you're breathing is 100% oxygen right? Wrong. The content of a bottle of medical grade N2O isn't the same as the content of a bottle of the auto grade. There's less usable N2O in the medical grade and even less still in foodservice N2O which is what I've been trying to say. If all nitrous were the same then there wouldn't be a grading scale for it, now would there?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Quote »
the sulfer in automotive n20 is NOT a byproduct of its combustion, its placed there so people DONT injest it.
mike</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's gotta be one of the stupidest things I've ever read. By your reasoning, coolant contains Ethelyne Gycol so it's nice and super sweet when you drink it. As an FYI: Nitrous Oxide produces sulphur when it is combusted or when it breaks down. It combines with the left over oxygen to become Sulphur Dioxide (SO2 which appears brown). Sniff that stuff and say goodnight. The sulpher present also decarbonizes your valves and combustion chamber which releases even more garbage that you can't ingest (CO2 - Carbon Dioxide). It's reasons like these that 2 different coalitions (N.E.R.C. and G.A.N.E) are pushing to ban nitrous oxide in autos (and many other sources of N2O that even come naturally in the environment) by 2010. As a matter of fact, for quite some time now, combustion-power plants (like coal burning plants) were required to add catalysts to reduce sulphur and nitrogen content before the fumes were released into the atmosphere. Sulphur had nothing to do with the inital fuels they were combusting, but sure enough after combustion there it was.
I'll play along though...lets say that sulphur were intentionally added to Nitrous Oxide because it can harm you, wouldn't that mean to say (since medical N2O 'has no sulphur' ) that nitrogen is toxic (since it IS a greenhouse gas) and shouldn't be ingested?! "Well wait a second BIGBOOST...if it's toxic, then how do we inhale it at the dentists office?!" Exactly. Once again, medical grade N2O is a joke compared to auto because it's thinned out. But hey...what do I know. Don't believe that crap that Commercial nitrous companies give to the public about "so people don't inhale it" because you can buy refined N2O over-the-counter just as easily as you can buy a CO2 cartridge. They sell you this garbage that already has a relatively high concentration of wasted N2O already present because they sell millions of gallons of it a year, and buying refined N2O eats away at the ol' profit margin. Same crap with US gas vs Everywhere elses gas.
Consider your self excessively schooled.
**Have to edit in order to reply again...**
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">consider yourself a complete dumbfuck..
taken from holley's website (not that they know anything about nitrous or anything..
Q: Is there any performance increase in using medical grade nitrous oxide?
A: None! NOS recommends and sells only the automotive grade, called Ny-trous Plus. Ny-trous Plus contains a minimal amount of sulfur dioxide (100 ppm) as a deterrent to substance abuse. The additive does not affect performance.
consider yourself, excessivley bent over the rail, schooled by michael jackson and r.kelly..
mike</TD></TR></TABLE>
Another dumb-*** misinformed statement. Think about what you just pasted....1: If Sulphur (which is a byproduct of combusted and other decomposing forms of N2O) dosen't affect performance...then why does Holley get ahold of a higher grade of it that they call "Ny-Trous Plus" if they admit them selves that it dosen't affect performance?! 2: If "sulphur is added" (which is complete B.S.) and Holley is selling a grade of N2O that isn't as high a concentration of Sulphur, then wouldn't Holley be distributing a product that would promote substance abuse?? Alright then. Their own statements contradict them selves because they know that it's not true. No nitrous system manufacturer can legitimately state that they don't use a pisswater grade of N2O. BTW, can any of you shade-tree nitrous buffs tell me how many grades of N2O there is? - Of course not. Can you even tell me the source for nitrous in the U.S. and how it's made? How about telling me why industrial grade N2O (which is burned in a furnace and pumps straight into the skies) already has sulphur present in it, when its far too strong for a human being to possibly inhale in the first place? Or why medical grade N2O costs more/lb than all the rest. I'll answer it for you, since if you had the anwser you'd already know you were making an *** of your self: It's because less and less sulpher in the different grades = a more pure trace and costs more to refine. Power companies don't care enough about the environment to spend billions of bucks on straight medical grade N2O just so that the sulphur won't burn the skies and make for some soothing raindrops. They buy tons of the cheap stuff which already has a high(er) percentage of decomposed N2O already in it. When they burn it, it becomes more prevelant.
Think about it; There wouldn't be a grading scale if there were only 2 extremities. "Mike", try to think about what you're reading rather than just swallowing it like you do for your boyfriend. And in the process, never forget this:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Don't believe that crap that Commercial nitrous companies give to the public about "so people don't inhale it" because you can buy refined N2O over-the-counter just as easily as you can buy a CO2 cartridge.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your source of "truth" is a company that's trying to make a profit by justifying the crap that them and thier competitors all use and feed you a line about how its there so people don't abuse it when the stuff that people DO abuse is just as easily available. They're just trying to make a buck, man. What do I have to profit? Don't be mad at me because you actually believe it.
10-94-55:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Automotive grade nitrous oxide - has sulfur added so it can't be abused as an inhalant
Medical grade nitrous oxide - has no additives so that it can be abused</TD></TR></TABLE>
So that it CAN be abused?? You sound like a retard. BTW, open a bottle of Auto N2O and you can inhale the entire bottle and still not laugh or feel like you're high. It only takes about 2 seconds for the N2O to take an effect on a human brain - which lasts for about 4-6 minutes. Try that with an equal amount of medical stuff and you're on your way to the hospital.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Some hardcore racers use medical grade because they believe it pushes a few extra horsepower out of the same jet sizes compared to automotive grade [on a relatively large shot (300+)], though I haven't seen any proof of that. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Right. That's an urban legend like the 10 sec civic on a 205 profile tire.
Naturelovin DC:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Chem was a pretty interesting class. I'm guessing you didn't take it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Right. And that's why your explaination is so indepth and precise as to tell me where I am wrong. Apparantly you're one hell of a chemist your self.
Modified by 1316130057 at 2:09 AM 5/6/2004
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">AzCivic1.6:
Quote »
N2O is 2 parts nitrogen and one part oxygen no matter what its used for. you're confused.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And the air you're breathing is 100% oxygen right? Wrong. The content of a bottle of medical grade N2O isn't the same as the content of a bottle of the auto grade. There's less usable N2O in the medical grade and even less still in foodservice N2O which is what I've been trying to say. If all nitrous were the same then there wouldn't be a grading scale for it, now would there?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Quote »
the sulfer in automotive n20 is NOT a byproduct of its combustion, its placed there so people DONT injest it.
mike</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's gotta be one of the stupidest things I've ever read. By your reasoning, coolant contains Ethelyne Gycol so it's nice and super sweet when you drink it. As an FYI: Nitrous Oxide produces sulphur when it is combusted or when it breaks down. It combines with the left over oxygen to become Sulphur Dioxide (SO2 which appears brown). Sniff that stuff and say goodnight. The sulpher present also decarbonizes your valves and combustion chamber which releases even more garbage that you can't ingest (CO2 - Carbon Dioxide). It's reasons like these that 2 different coalitions (N.E.R.C. and G.A.N.E) are pushing to ban nitrous oxide in autos (and many other sources of N2O that even come naturally in the environment) by 2010. As a matter of fact, for quite some time now, combustion-power plants (like coal burning plants) were required to add catalysts to reduce sulphur and nitrogen content before the fumes were released into the atmosphere. Sulphur had nothing to do with the inital fuels they were combusting, but sure enough after combustion there it was.
I'll play along though...lets say that sulphur were intentionally added to Nitrous Oxide because it can harm you, wouldn't that mean to say (since medical N2O 'has no sulphur' ) that nitrogen is toxic (since it IS a greenhouse gas) and shouldn't be ingested?! "Well wait a second BIGBOOST...if it's toxic, then how do we inhale it at the dentists office?!" Exactly. Once again, medical grade N2O is a joke compared to auto because it's thinned out. But hey...what do I know. Don't believe that crap that Commercial nitrous companies give to the public about "so people don't inhale it" because you can buy refined N2O over-the-counter just as easily as you can buy a CO2 cartridge. They sell you this garbage that already has a relatively high concentration of wasted N2O already present because they sell millions of gallons of it a year, and buying refined N2O eats away at the ol' profit margin. Same crap with US gas vs Everywhere elses gas.
Consider your self excessively schooled.
**Have to edit in order to reply again...**
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">consider yourself a complete dumbfuck..
taken from holley's website (not that they know anything about nitrous or anything..
Q: Is there any performance increase in using medical grade nitrous oxide?
A: None! NOS recommends and sells only the automotive grade, called Ny-trous Plus. Ny-trous Plus contains a minimal amount of sulfur dioxide (100 ppm) as a deterrent to substance abuse. The additive does not affect performance.
consider yourself, excessivley bent over the rail, schooled by michael jackson and r.kelly..
mike</TD></TR></TABLE>
Another dumb-*** misinformed statement. Think about what you just pasted....1: If Sulphur (which is a byproduct of combusted and other decomposing forms of N2O) dosen't affect performance...then why does Holley get ahold of a higher grade of it that they call "Ny-Trous Plus" if they admit them selves that it dosen't affect performance?! 2: If "sulphur is added" (which is complete B.S.) and Holley is selling a grade of N2O that isn't as high a concentration of Sulphur, then wouldn't Holley be distributing a product that would promote substance abuse?? Alright then. Their own statements contradict them selves because they know that it's not true. No nitrous system manufacturer can legitimately state that they don't use a pisswater grade of N2O. BTW, can any of you shade-tree nitrous buffs tell me how many grades of N2O there is? - Of course not. Can you even tell me the source for nitrous in the U.S. and how it's made? How about telling me why industrial grade N2O (which is burned in a furnace and pumps straight into the skies) already has sulphur present in it, when its far too strong for a human being to possibly inhale in the first place? Or why medical grade N2O costs more/lb than all the rest. I'll answer it for you, since if you had the anwser you'd already know you were making an *** of your self: It's because less and less sulpher in the different grades = a more pure trace and costs more to refine. Power companies don't care enough about the environment to spend billions of bucks on straight medical grade N2O just so that the sulphur won't burn the skies and make for some soothing raindrops. They buy tons of the cheap stuff which already has a high(er) percentage of decomposed N2O already in it. When they burn it, it becomes more prevelant.
Think about it; There wouldn't be a grading scale if there were only 2 extremities. "Mike", try to think about what you're reading rather than just swallowing it like you do for your boyfriend. And in the process, never forget this:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Don't believe that crap that Commercial nitrous companies give to the public about "so people don't inhale it" because you can buy refined N2O over-the-counter just as easily as you can buy a CO2 cartridge.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your source of "truth" is a company that's trying to make a profit by justifying the crap that them and thier competitors all use and feed you a line about how its there so people don't abuse it when the stuff that people DO abuse is just as easily available. They're just trying to make a buck, man. What do I have to profit? Don't be mad at me because you actually believe it.
10-94-55:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Automotive grade nitrous oxide - has sulfur added so it can't be abused as an inhalant
Medical grade nitrous oxide - has no additives so that it can be abused</TD></TR></TABLE>
So that it CAN be abused?? You sound like a retard. BTW, open a bottle of Auto N2O and you can inhale the entire bottle and still not laugh or feel like you're high. It only takes about 2 seconds for the N2O to take an effect on a human brain - which lasts for about 4-6 minutes. Try that with an equal amount of medical stuff and you're on your way to the hospital.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Some hardcore racers use medical grade because they believe it pushes a few extra horsepower out of the same jet sizes compared to automotive grade [on a relatively large shot (300+)], though I haven't seen any proof of that. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Right. That's an urban legend like the 10 sec civic on a 205 profile tire.
Naturelovin DC:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Chem was a pretty interesting class. I'm guessing you didn't take it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Right. And that's why your explaination is so indepth and precise as to tell me where I am wrong. Apparantly you're one hell of a chemist your self.
Modified by 1316130057 at 2:09 AM 5/6/2004
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Re: nitrous oxide (1316130057)
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Consider your self excessively schooled. </TD></TR></TABLE>
consider yourself a complete dumbfuck..
taken from holley's website (not that they know anything about nitrous or anything..
Q: Is there any performance increase in using medical grade nitrous oxide?
A: None! NOS recommends and sells only the automotive grade, called Ny-trous Plus. Ny-trous Plus contains a minimal amount of sulfur dioxide (100 ppm) as a deterrent to substance abuse. The additive does not affect performance.
consider yourself, excessivley bent over the rail, schooled by michael jackson and r.kelly..
mike
Consider your self excessively schooled.
</TD></TR></TABLE>consider yourself a complete dumbfuck..
taken from holley's website (not that they know anything about nitrous or anything..
Q: Is there any performance increase in using medical grade nitrous oxide?
A: None! NOS recommends and sells only the automotive grade, called Ny-trous Plus. Ny-trous Plus contains a minimal amount of sulfur dioxide (100 ppm) as a deterrent to substance abuse. The additive does not affect performance.
consider yourself, excessivley bent over the rail, schooled by michael jackson and r.kelly..
mike
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Re: nitrous oxide (1316130057)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1316130057 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Consider your self excessively schooled. </TD></TR></TABLE>
You're a moron. Stop spreading disinfo. Seriously. Just stop. Please.
Automotive grade nitrous oxide - has sulfur added so it can't be abused as an inhalant
Medical grade nitrous oxide - has no additives so that it can be abused
Some hardcore racers use medical grade because they believe it pushes a few extra horsepower out of the same jet sizes compared to automotive grade [on a relatively large shot (300+)], though I haven't seen any proof of that.
</TD></TR></TABLE>You're a moron. Stop spreading disinfo. Seriously. Just stop. Please.
Automotive grade nitrous oxide - has sulfur added so it can't be abused as an inhalant
Medical grade nitrous oxide - has no additives so that it can be abused
Some hardcore racers use medical grade because they believe it pushes a few extra horsepower out of the same jet sizes compared to automotive grade [on a relatively large shot (300+)], though I haven't seen any proof of that.
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Re: nitrous oxide (1316130057)
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Consider your self excessively schooled.
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Chem was a pretty interesting class. I'm guessing you didn't take it.
Consider your self excessively schooled.
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Chem was a pretty interesting class. I'm guessing you didn't take it.
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I can personally say that there is a big difference between automotive, commericial, and medical. I spayed the automotive grade nitrous with sulfer for about 2 years. The last time i filled my bottle, i got it filled somewhere else, and i was told the nitrous does not have any sulfer in it, and is very clean. Well goddamn he was right. My engine never detonated on the nitous i bought from the dragstrip, but with this cleaner nitrous my car would make more power and detonate everytime i tried using it. I had to completely retune my car to this cleaner nitrous.
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Re: nitrous oxide (naturelovindc2)
I used to sell Medical grade nitrous. It works the exact same in the combustion chamber as Nitrous Plus (auto grade) with back to back dyno comparisons there is no difference. However, it is said that new car manufacturers test the oil in blown engines that are brought in for warranty work for sulphur dioxide (the additive in Nitrous Plus, used as an inhaling deterrant), If they find the sulphur dioxide in the oil they void your warranty for nitrous use. Supposedly, if you use medical grade nitrous there is no sulphur dioxide to be found in the oil and they cant prove you sprayed the engine.
The reason I sold the medical grade is because I could get it cheaper and it sold better because of the dealer ship deal.
The reason I sold the medical grade is because I could get it cheaper and it sold better because of the dealer ship deal.
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Re: (AzCivic1.6)
I have sprayed both nitrous plus, and medical, couldn't tell a damn bit of difference between either one.
1316130057 you should have quit while you were ahead, before you started typing the first reply. It is a good thing you are on the 5 post limit or you would have made yourself look like more of a dumbass
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Modified by 12thstreetjunkman at 6:45 AM 5/6/2004
1316130057 you should have quit while you were ahead, before you started typing the first reply. It is a good thing you are on the 5 post limit or you would have made yourself look like more of a dumbass
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Re: Re:Back to school again.... (1316130057)
******* give it a rest dumbfuck, your wrong..bottom line. awsome. why the need for the bashing telling me in swallowing my boyfriend loads? im sorry thats the only way you can justify your **** POOR, infact complete clusterfuck of a wrong response. did you just type your justification one time and copy and paste it to take up 3 pages? because when i read it, its like a ******* merry go round, getting no where.
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Re: (AzCivic1.6)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AzCivic1.6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">someone please delete all of 1316130057's posts on this thread, before someone thinks he's right.</TD></TR></TABLE>
on this THREAD? how about every single board he has ever registereted on...
mike
on this THREAD? how about every single board he has ever registereted on...
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on this THREAD? how about every single board he has ever registereted on...
mike</TD></TR></TABLE>
even better
on this THREAD? how about every single board he has ever registereted on...
mike</TD></TR></TABLE>
even better
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Re: (AzCivic1.6)
Ok again, this is off the Holley site.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Q: Is there any performance increase in using medical grade nitrous oxide?
A: None! NOS recommends and sells only the automotive grade, called Ny-trous Plus. Ny-trous Plus contains a minimal amount of sulfur dioxide (100 ppm) as a deterrent to substance abuse. The additive does not affect performance. </TD></TR></TABLE> And this is off the CompuCar site. And I work down the road from them. And I trust anything they say about nitrous. Good people over there.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Should I use medical grade nitrous or nitrous with sulfur added?
There is no difference from medical grade to NY-trous Plus. However, we strongly recommend the sale of and use of ONLY NY-trous Plus to help eliminate substance abuse.
</TD></TR></TABLE> Why is that hard to believe? Tell me this then. If the sulfur is created when it combusts. How the hell is in it before you even inject it in your engine? That one baffles me man. That is just so obvious an din your face but you can't see it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Q: Is there any performance increase in using medical grade nitrous oxide?
A: None! NOS recommends and sells only the automotive grade, called Ny-trous Plus. Ny-trous Plus contains a minimal amount of sulfur dioxide (100 ppm) as a deterrent to substance abuse. The additive does not affect performance. </TD></TR></TABLE> And this is off the CompuCar site. And I work down the road from them. And I trust anything they say about nitrous. Good people over there.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Should I use medical grade nitrous or nitrous with sulfur added?
There is no difference from medical grade to NY-trous Plus. However, we strongly recommend the sale of and use of ONLY NY-trous Plus to help eliminate substance abuse.
</TD></TR></TABLE> Why is that hard to believe? Tell me this then. If the sulfur is created when it combusts. How the hell is in it before you even inject it in your engine? That one baffles me man. That is just so obvious an din your face but you can't see it.