moores55

Ok so here is the retune from the first time it was done.



and after the retune.


setup
k24a1
greddy kit w/frontmount and bov
3inch dp
2.5inch catback
kpro
and a few other goodies

tannerLSt

those numbers sound really really low for a k-series on boost .....
**** my boy made like 216whp on a bone stock k20 with intake header and exhaust on k-pro...

http://www.dallasimports.net/f...46&hl=

vietjdmboi

Jason tuned this? hmmm that sure is low.

Schister66

You need to turn up the boost a little bit...those numbers can be made with an NA K24/K20a and basic tune. If i had a K series, there's no way i'd settle for less than 400whp on the stock block, but that's me...

I Have an STD

yeah thats pretty lame. when i saw the numbers, i expected a d series.

tannerLSt

weak weak weak... another guy i know has a stock block k series making 450ish

i know the greddy kit won't do that but **** man those k-series can handle lots and lots of power

HiProfile

From what I can see (dyno graph w/o rpm FTL) your turbo doesn't hit full boost until 4.5k. I've seen a few T3 b-series (stock) that spool sooner but make 250-300whp. There are also sohc's making more power with 14b's. Are you using 87 octane or something? I really can't see the kit being that much of a limitation, so it has to be something else.

Looking at the 1st graph, your initial tune seemed to get 1psi at ~2100rpm, then took 2500rpm to hit 9psi. I call boost/exhaust leak...

tannerLSt

those look like mustang dyno numbers.... but i see its a dynojet...

whiteef8

somethin seems wrong. Injector size? Why not push it a little more?

moores55

Ok, I thought that too and they are kinda low. I did not have my 3 bar hooked up so i could not go any higher the 10psi. Two, the turbo i have runs out of breath at higher rpms i.e. after 5500rpm's. I'm running the megan b pipe i thought it was 2.5inch but it looks to be 2.25inch. three, I'm running my stock axle back muffler. I have some parts in here that limit my power out put so i can see why i did not see higher numbers. The motor want's to make so much more power but my turbo and exhaust just won't let it at this time. I plan to up my 550's to 750's and run 14psi in 6 months or so. We tried to up the power but jason said without a bigger turbo an exhaust i'm just gunna be limited to this. He also said heat soak was a big problem on the dyno since there is only 10 mph of air flowing through the front and not 70mph of air. He told me the numbers will go up when heat soak is not present. If i was running a rev hard kit i would have had no problem with better numbers but the tq is more then a n/a k will make.


Modified by moores55 at 9:12 PM 4/13/2008

EM2Civic

It's not really the kit, it's more the exhaust and turbo. Know a guy that just dynoed at 402whp on k20 with greddy kit and front mount with a sc61. What turbo are you running?

moores55

And that's what i'm saying, It's my turbo that came with the kit (t517z) and my exhaust. I wanted to keep the car quite as stock so that's why i left my axle back. I know if i did a full 3inch exhaust and something like a gt28rs or 30 i would break 300 easy. It also dose not help that the turbo i'm running is going out and needs a rebuild. But that's coming next week.

96teggylsse

my stock gsr tuned on crome made 300 whp!!! ha ha ha weak man. turn that **** up and have some fun...

tannerLSt

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by moores55 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And that's what i'm saying, It's my turbo that came with the kit (t517z) and my exhaust. I wanted to keep the car quite as stock so that's why i left my axle back. I know if i did a full 3inch exhaust and something like a gt28rs or 30 i would break 300 easy. It also dose not help that the turbo i'm running is going out and needs a rebuild. But that's coming next week.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you wanted to keep the car as stock as possible... then why turbo it?

just take off the exhaust and run open downpipe

and the turbo needs a rebuild so soon after tuning... what did you buy a used turbo kit?

I Have an STD

stock axle back and small midpipe are no excuse. the car should have made a ton more power, even with the setup the way it is.

if the turbo is hosed, when why did you go back and re-tune?

blwn95civic

Somethings not right, even with that exhaust you should make more power than you did.....

KillAHonDa

very weak, my friend just tuned a ls-vtec-T @ 6psi and made 291 -and my other buddy with his STOCK k20 w/125 shot of NOs made 295 - i would not settle for those numbers on a k24-t

siblues

iTrader: (1)

The numbers do seem a bit low but what did the tuner have to say about them?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KillAHonDa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">very weak, my friend just tuned a ls-vtec-T @ 6psi and made 291 -and my other buddy with his STOCK k20 w/125 shot of NOs made 295 - i would not settle for those numbers on a k24-t </TD></TR></TABLE>


Thats not a good example since you didnt mention what turbo the ls-v was using.I mean a 6 pounds on a gt28 and a gt42 arent going to make the same power

moores55

I'm not trying to keep the car as stock as possible. I kept the stock axle back b/c it's quite. The first time i went to get tuned the tunner ran out of time and i had to go back. He told me it's my turbo that's holding my numbers back and if i upgrade i will see the numbers i was hoping for. I did not have a 3bar at the time of the tune so i could not go past 10 psi. I have an buddy club spec 3 exhaust on the way so i will see how much more i make going from 2 1/4 to 3inch.

CivicVX94

k24a1 is out of an Accord/Element and is rated at 160hp/161ftlbs tq stock...shitty exhaust + small turbo(on a larger 4banger) @ 10psi= ~80whp increase and ~90wtq increase and you guys think thats terrible?? It's obviously not the most efficient setup but I don't think thats too bad, i think alot of you are getting the k24a1 mixed up with the a2 out of the tsx http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_K_engine#K24A1


Modified by CivicVX94 at 6:22 PM 4/14/2008

Quad-Damage

i would be pissed with those #'s

my d16 makes more

i was doing 256 @ 10 psi

moores55

I think your right. Even the tuner said, "big motor small turbo = 10hp per psi" So i don't think i did that bad. The turbo will be upgraded and boost will go up. <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicVX94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">k24a1 is out of an Accord/Element and is rated at 160hp/161ftlbs tq stock...shitty exhaust + small turbo(on a larger 4banger) @ 10psi= ~80whp increase and ~90wtq increase and you guys think thats terrible?? It's obviously not the most efficient setup but I don't think thats too bad, i think alot of you are getting the k24a1 mixed up with the a2 out of the tsx http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_K_engine#K24A1


Modified by CivicVX94 at 6:22 PM 4/14/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>

riceball777

those numbers look like a stock d16 with some baby turbo pushing like 7psi