I wanna know what James is gonna do with all the money he makes.

a yacht? a new home?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DavidR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In reguard to this statement, I would have to say that the auto-tune feature was VERY nice in Crome for street tuning the mid RPM points, and takes A LOT of the hassle out of it. If you've used the feature, you should and THEN make bold statements like this. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I have used it in hondata and found it useless. I would rather do it all manually but that is me.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ladysman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I have used it in hondata and found it useless. I would rather do it all manually but that is me. </TD></TR></TABLE>

x2.

I want the EMS to do what I tell it. Not what it tells me a value should be. Autotune is for weenies.

Autotune also, in a way, promotes a one man operation. You will have to focus on driving and the computer....

 

Is bluetooth the only way to connect? How stable and error free is the BT connection while tuning? Can anyone give details of their experience tuning with it through BT?

Any plans for an nsx app?

 

BT is great. No problems from me. I'm not 100% sure on what the distance is though. I know there are 2 versions of the BT dongle. One is 100 meters and the other is just 10 meters. I'm not sure which one James has selected to use.

There is a USB port as well to connect thru.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DavidR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
In reguard to this statement, I would have to say that the auto-tune feature was VERY nice in Crome for street tuning the mid RPM points, and takes A LOT of the hassle out of it. If you've used the feature, you should and THEN make bold statements like this. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree, and I will tend to imagine that most of the people that use Crome to tune a variety of cars will as well at first (if they understand its usefulness and its dangers). I never thought of that feature as Auto-Tune though personally...and more of an efficient technique used to dial in the part throttle fuel maps.

I imagine as you get to using Neptune more though you will find efficient techniques using a different manner. It all comes down to learning how to use the software, being good with it...and efficient.

If computers didnt do things we weren't telling them to do some of the time, none of us would be on Honda-Tech right now.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by igo4bmx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wanna know what James is gonna do with all the money he makes.

a yacht? a new home?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm going to Disneyland! Kidding... hopefully development on other platforms.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LeGeND4LiFe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How stable and error free is the BT connection while tuning? Can anyone give details of their experience tuning with it through BT? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I was using Bluetooth from about 30 feet away from the vehicle. The further away you get the more data will need to be resent... i.e. slowing it down a bit, but the data is all checksumed so it won't send bad data to the unit. If you get too far you'll lose the signal with no ill effect. If you stay within range you can stay connected for a very long period of time, provided that Windows doesn't throw a fit for no reason. Mac users have it made, I've never once had a single issue with Bluetooth on the Mac.

 

download all of the zip files in the windows folder? i wanna take a look

 

If there's ever more than one, they are dated.

 

After dicking with engine managment one way or another for like 7 years now- It's pretty obvious that you either LOVE or DON'T auto tuning (reguardless of the EMS system in use).

I've never needed it, but that's me.

Thus, I would prefer other features be developed and perfected.

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On the flip side, the couple Autronics and a Hydra Nemesis I fooled with or been close to... those "auto tuned" really well. As long as the VE table was correct, you just set the desired AFR and go.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GimpyAccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
On the flip side, the couple Autronics and a Hydra Nemesis I fooled with or been close to... those "auto tuned" really well. As long as the VE table was correct, you just set the desired AFR and go.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Right, you can tune a few maps, and it will pretty much tune itself from the VE table. Pretty neat stuff.

But for this platform, I would rather everything work perfect then have auto-tune. I never use it anyway, so if everything works the way everyone says, I will be one happy person.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93turbo16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

But for this platform, I would rather everything work perfect then have auto-tune. I never use it anyway, so if everything works the way everyone says, I will be one happy person. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tepid1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Tuning someone elses car while you sit in the stands is priceless!

J/K. Bluetooth has "firewall" type abilities.

Didn't mean to scare you all.... </TD></TR></TABLE>

I was begging for this feature so I could take the import drag racing world by storm. James refused to add it.

 

Do they make a BT -&gt; 802.11x repeater?? huhuhu...

 

Just got a couple boards in stock today:





Ready to ship!!

 

sweeeeeeeeeeettttttttttttt

 

Got the 1st batch in as well, everyone who ordered a Pre-Sale board will be shipped Next Day Air on Monday

10 Blue Tooth modules should be here Monday as well

Each of my Neptune Board kits come with a FULL OBD1 ECU Chipping Kit as well in case your ECU is not socketed already

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1809793]

 

being a network guy, I have a bit if a concern on the BT side. think what it will do to a car that is on the starting line and someone sitting in the stnads with a laptop connecting to their ecu and then turnign it lean on the top parts of the map.

it's going to happen. not a maybe, but a 100% certain. untill they learn to fully encrypt BT, I highly recoimmend everyoen disable it and use only usb or at least only have it runnign while actively tuning. after turn it off. (assuming it can be disabled).

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oscarmayer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">being a network guy, I have a bit if a concern on the BT side. think what it will do to a car that is on the starting line and someone sitting in the stnads with a laptop connecting to their ecu and then turnign it lean on the top parts of the map. </TD></TR></TABLE> Haha, your opponent opens his laptop and quick sets your speed limiter to 7mph.. In all reality though, isn't the practical range of BT much less then standard wireless so you'd never have to worry about that?

 

The BT is the 10meter version and you can turn it off. With windows you can assign a access password too.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr_latino999 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Haha, your opponent opens his laptop and quick sets your speed limiter to 7mph.. In all reality though, isn't the practical range of BT much less then standard wireless so you'd never have to worry about that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm pretty sure the usable range of Bluetooth is like 30ft.?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D-Rob &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I'm pretty sure the usable range of Bluetooth is like 30ft.?
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There are two versions of BT.... 100 meters and 10 meteres. The ONLY version that the RTP currently supports is 10 meters (30ft).

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oscarmayer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">being a network guy, I have a bit if a concern on the BT side. think what it will do to a car that is on the starting line and someone sitting in the stnads with a laptop connecting to their ecu and then turnign it lean on the top parts of the map.

it's going to happen. not a maybe, but a 100% certain. untill they learn to fully encrypt BT, I highly recoimmend everyoen disable it and use only usb or at least only have it runnign while actively tuning. after turn it off. (assuming it can be disabled).</TD></TR></TABLE>

I find it highly unlikely...are there BlueTooth 'sniffers' out there? Like Tepid said Bluetooth can be password protected and the person connecting to your board would have to know the exact serial number of the board to be able to connect the Neptune Software to the RTP unit anyways...this they are not going to be able to crack, so as you can see their are layers of things to work around.

Bluetooth can easily be unhooked from the board to disable it though, although at the track, not having to hook up cables is a major plus

Just dont **** off your tuner

 

Yup, the serial numbers and communications are fully encrypted, so it's not something you can easily crack your way into. That was a major concern I addressed a long time ago. Thanks for the input though.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xenocron &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I find it highly unlikely...are there BlueTooth 'sniffers' out there? Like Tepid said Bluetooth can be password protected and the person connecting to your board would have to know the exact serial number of the board to be able to connect the Neptune Software to the RTP unit anyways...this they are not going to be able to crack, so as you can see their are layers of things to work around.

Bluetooth can easily be unhooked from the board to disable it though, although at the track, not having to hook up cables is a major plus

Just dont **** off your tuner </TD></TR></TABLE>

also think about all the car manufacturers are including bluetooth in their vehicles- if there was a true bluetooth issue, two cars next to each other at a stop light could attach to the same phone? like others said, password protection is the best option