need help misfiring or somthing!!

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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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well first off here my set up
99 honda civic ex
97 GSR
walbro 255 fuel pump
525cc presicion injectors
je 9:5:1 piston
je rings
eagle rods
p72 chip retards the timming 1 degree for very pund of boost
obd2 to bod1 harness
safc

well i was woundering if anyone had the same set-up and how there safc is tuned?
i need to get some what of a good tune with the safs so i can drive the car 5 hours to a dyno and tune shop.

The problem is at full throttle at 4000-5000rpm feels like the car is misfiring with a hard jerking mostion.
SAFC SETTING
Throttle Position low 30 high 60
Low throttle
1000rpm -15
2000rpm -15
3-8400rpm -20
High Throttle
1000rpm - 20
2000rpm -20
3-8400rpm -25
plan on getting hondata s300 if i can make it down there

any advice please help??

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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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Default Re: need help misfiring or somthing!! (laziebun)

If your ECU is chipped, why are you even messing with the VAFC?

Get it tuned with Crome, sell off the VAFC and enjoy your car
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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it's just chip to retard the timming 1 degree for every pound of boost not to mess with the fuel
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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I agree with ^^^ also, what plugs are you running and what are they gapped to?
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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im running ngk one heat rang cooler then stock and there gap at 30
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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Close the gap down a little bit. I would recommend getting a basemap made for your setup. taking our you safc and then driving to get it tuned.

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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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Default Re: need help misfiring or somthing!! (laziebun)

you need to add a wideband to your mod list. you should have had your vehicle towed to the dyno or get a road tune using a wideband so that you don't blow it up.
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 05:49 AM
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i have an innovated LC-1 wideband putting it in this weekend.

anyone else using a LC-1???
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 05:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by laziebun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's just chip to retard the timming 1 degree for every pound of boost not to mess with the fuel</TD></TR></TABLE>
too bad the AFC throws your timing way out of whack when used to correct fuel for boost. ditch the AFC.

however, in my past AFC experience you aren't pulling nearly enough fuel. the trims should be more like -35 or -40 with 450 cc injectors. Probably higher for 525cc.
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 06:30 AM
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you need a gauge or laptop to view the outputs from the lc-1. you can even use an autometer gauge if you program the output of the innovate unit to the gauge
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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yeah im going to hook my laptop to it. i talk to a dyno shop and they said that you cant have a chip ecu and safc cause it one over rides the other or some ****, anyone ever heard of this
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by laziebun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah im going to hook my laptop to it. i talk to a dyno shop and they said that you cant have a chip ecu and safc cause it one over rides the other or some ****, anyone ever heard of this</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, that is why we said to ditch the safc a couple times already in this thread.
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