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Good for them... You dont have a built head!</TD></TR></TABLE>
.... did you not think these are my final goals Noob? No of course you did'nt you don't do much thinking at all

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And further more dont know what your talking about
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Your right, I just coincidentaly dialed number on my phone and bumped into the retailers who sold parts..... I also coincidentaly just blerted out manufactures of parts and products....
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Shoot for 500 on pump gas and get disapointed! </TD></TR></TABLE>
why?? shut up noob, go buy an i/h/e and GTFO!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slow poke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You should be runing a t4 anyway for that kind of power anyway </TD></TR></TABLE>
500whp and I should be running full t4 HAHA someone else wanna chime in on this?
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You want to be a smat *** I will stay out of ur thread dick </TD></TR></TABLE>

you should have done that long ago
please BAN

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bomber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm confused...are we talking about 500hp on pumpgas, or are we talking about 500hp on pumpgas AND on stock block?

Also, are you worried about running out of injector? The h22's dont seem to be as efficient as the B series...

Stock ignition setup?</TD></TR></TABLE>
sorry bomber, "slow poke" seems to think he know my posts with out reading them.

People say h22's dont seem to be as efficient because not many people build fast h22's. I've heard of h22's toping 700whp

750cc rc's
I want to run some kind of direct fire when I built the motor.


Modified by ludetech at 5:52 PM 11/3/2004


Modified by ludetech at 5:53 PM 11/3/2004

 

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sourskittles &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good luck to ya on the build up. Would you mind posting your dyno results when you get it tuned. I'd love to see exactly how much power that thing makes on pump gas. As for the motor thing, lets not get into that. It does seem a little outrageous, but at the same time I know of a guy that has pushed 400+whp out of a D-series. If he can get that type a power on that motor an H22 should be able to get 500+whp when the internals have been done. Keep us posted on your progress. :thumbup </TD></TR></TABLE>

unlike b and d series, h series cant run forged internals on stock sleeves....

 

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unlike b and d series, h series cant run forged internals on stock sleeves.... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah us prelude guys got dicked with some kind of composite sleeve. If you dont resleeve forged pistons/rings want to form a weld with the sleeve.

 

i have a question for you guys since you seem to know what your talking about. ok heres the problem. i have a 92 hatch and stock d15b8 block and a have a t-25 on it. i put the vx intake and dx head on. when i get on it it seems to choke, sputter, then start pulling really hard i was thinking of my fmu being too big, on the account of its running pig rich but i clear it out and it still does it any info for me would be great: thanks guys

 

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unlike b and d series, h series cant run forged internals on stock sleeves.... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks for the info. I did not know that.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludetech &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The most I can possibly hit on pump gas. I'll probably end up upgrading my wastegate before I retune it on high boost. I'm hoping for around 500whp on 92 octane </TD></TR></TABLE>

It won't happen.

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Does it make much sence to work the kinks out at 16psi....... no . 500whp on pump gas is possible and thats what Im shooting for. **** YOU noob for trying to be smart and make me look dumb.

they did it on a b18 with 84.5mm bore on an sc61(same turbo I have)so why can't I do it. Stock h22 bore is 87.5 and I would bore to 88.5 and run 9.1 comp pistons as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually you are the 'noob.' And by calling names you are just making yourself look even dumber. Why are you dumb you ask?

1) The H series motor are far less efficient than the B series motors are. Due to the MSBC you can only get away with around 350-400whp safely on the H series motors. I know this because I have built several H series that have put out more than 400. My personal h23a has already put out 450whp and once I retune the new set-up it should be just shy of 600.

Go ahead and try to run more power on pump gas, you'll misfire and eventually detonate. Throw in a higher octane fuel however and yes you can hit 500 depending on whether your 'new' set-up is efficient enough. You may also want to invest in an ignition system since the prelude ignitions tend to be a little weaker than the B series do.

2) The h22a is not a 87.5mm bore. It is a 87.0

Your little turbo kit build up is nice, but you need to listen to other members who have a little more experience under their belt than you do. Some are trying to help you out and you think you know it all. There's no need to get all pissy.

 

I've never seen much more then 400WHP on an H series with pump gas......

 

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It won't happen.

Actually you are the 'noob.' And by calling names you are just making yourself look even dumber. Why are you dumb you ask?

1) The H series motor are far less efficient than the B series motors are. Due to the MSBC you can only get away with around 350-400whp safely on the H series motors. I know this because I have built several H series that have put out more than 400. My personal h23a has already put out 450whp and once I retune the new set-up it should be just shy of 600.

Go ahead and try to run more power on pump gas, you'll misfire and eventually detonate. Throw in a higher octane fuel however and yes you can hit 500 depending on whether your 'new' set-up is efficient enough. You may also want to invest in an ignition system since the prelude ignitions tend to be a little weaker than the B series do.

2) The h22a is not a 87.5mm bore. It is a 87.0

Your little turbo kit build up is nice, but you need to listen to other members who have a little more experience under their belt than you do. Some are trying to help you out and you think you know it all. There's no need to get all pissy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is kind of where I was going but I was waaay more subtle

Since you have the AEM EMS you have the choice to go with a COP conversion. There was a thread about it on the AEM forums (by user banzai if I remember right).

 

good luck on the build bro. To back him up, it is quite possible to attain that goal.


P.S. if you dont have anything at least constructive to post, do us all a favor and take your small pen*s syndrome some other place.

 

whatever <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrecisionH23a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It won't happen.

Actually you are the 'noob.' And by calling names you are just making yourself look even dumber. Why are you dumb you ask?
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you made a perfect example of a hypocrit
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrecisionH23a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
1) The H series motor are far less efficient than the B series motors are. Due to the MSBC you can only get away with around 350-400whp safely on the H series motors. I know this because I have built several H series that have put out more than 400. My personal h23a has already put out 450whp and once I retune the new set-up it should be just shy of 600.

Go ahead and try to run more power on pump gas, you'll misfire and eventually detonate. Throw in a higher octane fuel however and yes you can hit 500 depending on whether your 'new' set-up is efficient enough. You may also want to invest in an ignition system since the prelude ignitions tend to be a little weaker than the B series do.

2) The h22a is not a 87.5mm bore. It is a 87.0

Your little turbo kit build up is nice, but you need to listen to other members who have a little more experience under their belt than you do. Some are trying to help you out and you think you know it all. There's no need to get all pissy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

geez well I'll be sure to send you a private message from 500whp club. check your box around summer 05.

whenever you try to attempt anything groundbreaking people will always try to pull you down. If the motor blows oh well I'll build another or maybe 2 or maybe even 3 if I have to. But I'm going to hit 500whp on pump gas and I'm going to listen to the guys at torque freaks who have tuned probably hundreds of highly modified high horsepower imports, not you.

EDIT: also I would not say that they are trying to help me out by saying its not possible.


Modified by ludetech at 11:26 AM 11/6/2004

 

Have you actually talked to Sean about this?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludetech &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
.... did you not think these are my final goals Noob? No of course you did'nt you don't do much thinking at all

500whp and I should be running full t4 HAHA someone else wanna chime in on this?

you should have done that long ago
please BAN

sorry bomber, "slow poke" seems to think he know my posts with out reading them.

People say h22's dont seem to be as efficient because not many people build fast h22's. I've heard of h22's toping 700whp

750cc rc's
I want to run some kind of direct fire when I built the motor.


Modified by ludetech at 5:52 PM 11/3/2004


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im not trying to be a smart *** or anyting but i hope you are not planning on staying street with your car. you are building a drag project right? wont you be slip and sliding everywhere with so much power on a front wheel car?

 

how do you get a hold of that onefab manifold and downpipe, do they have a setup to work with a/c. you have a link, website, or # for them.thanx

 

http://www.onefabrication.com

I think their a/c setups are for B-series only but I am not 100% on that...check it out.

 

i have a question, will that precision sc61 turbo you are running bolt up to a drag cast manifold and 2.5 drag downpipe, does n e one know where i can get a drag downpipe for an h22 from if it works with that turbo, thanks for the info.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by filude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">banned well I'm done. Honda-tech is just full of ****'s and ********. Its incredibly difficult to get anything usefull out of this forum. mods for your fantistic use of judgement. </TD></TR></TABLE>

That's funny because I and a handful of other members gave you useful information. But you know better than the people that have actually put together several 400+whp set-ups.

Banned.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by filude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">banned well I'm done. Honda-tech is just full of ****'s and ********. Its incredibly difficult to get anything usefull out of this forum. mods for your fantistic use of judgement. </TD></TR></TABLE>


he is partially correct about the ******** in HT, but he is two-faced because he did receive useful info when he asked..GTFU and dont come back noob

 

that manifold is badass !!! post more pics of it

 

nice setup

 

i have a question, will that precision sc61 turbo you are running bolt up to a drag cast manifold and 2.5 drag downpipe, does n e one know where i can get a drag downpipe for an h22 from if it works with that turbo, thanks for the info.

 

it should be illegal to build something that insane....but keep it up

 

do you have a link for the onefab equal length manifold?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bomber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.onefabrication.com

I think their a/c setups are for B-series only but I am not 100% on that...check it out.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This was already covered. Besides that it isn't like these are ultra rare manifolds...the actual company guys are on this board every day. Look around.

 

Looks like you are moving in the right direction. But i must ask why do so many people want so much whp on pump gas. Is it that race gas is too expensive? I personally wouldnt want to run my setup on the limit of detonation. But im not knocking your decision ( no pun intended). Good luck with your goals. It would definitely be safer to shoot for those goals on the correct gas.

Have you had a turbocharged vehicle before? I ask this because i at one time wanted x amount of horsepower before the thing even ran, and the truth is its a great learning experience to build, tune, and keep bettering the setup. Dont let other people disuade you but i reccomend taking their advice into consideration. Especially Precisionh23a cause he knows those setups very well.