My buildup.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicTurbo12 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Take it back! Do some bitchin'... Needs to be rebored + honed.
Looks good, Good luck with the rest of the build...
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he he .. this cracks me up -- How can you suggest to take it back when You haven't even checked the clearances ????? Did you read my post --- even with loose clearances like 0.0035" you still cant slide it in by hand the correct way--- A RING COMPRESSOR IS NEEDED and the walls need to be lubed with wd-40!
Looks good, Good luck with the rest of the build...
</TD></TR></TABLE>he he .. this cracks me up -- How can you suggest to take it back when You haven't even checked the clearances ????? Did you read my post --- even with loose clearances like 0.0035" you still cant slide it in by hand the correct way--- A RING COMPRESSOR IS NEEDED and the walls need to be lubed with wd-40!
Yes you need to get tht back to a machine shop an dhave them check clearances and possibly rebore and hone. It should fit both ways. I have talked to many reputable machinists and the advice about the CP Pistons being so precise you just need to tell the machine shop to bore it to say 84mm is not the way to do it. They still need that block and pistons in hand, a very very good and **** engine builder/machinists who has built two of the fastest Sport FWD cars stated this, CP is in say Cali and they measure the piston as 84mm and the temp is 78 degrees in their shop, which I belive is standard machine shop temp(could be 74 degrees can't remember), the machinist in MD calculates something different with his temps and equipment then you have clearance problems. I wil get the machinist to elaborate on this post and make a MORE EDUCATED explanation.
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he he .. this cracks me up -- How can you suggest to take it back when You haven't even checked the clearances ????? Did you read my post --- even with loose clearances like 0.0035" you still cant slide it in by hand the correct way--- A RING COMPRESSOR IS NEEDED and the walls need to be lubed with wd-40!</TD></TR></TABLE>
It should fit without rings. By the pic no rings on it andthey should slide in.
he he .. this cracks me up -- How can you suggest to take it back when You haven't even checked the clearances ????? Did you read my post --- even with loose clearances like 0.0035" you still cant slide it in by hand the correct way--- A RING COMPRESSOR IS NEEDED and the walls need to be lubed with wd-40!</TD></TR></TABLE>
It should fit without rings. By the pic no rings on it andthey should slide in.
they should fit without the rings ... The only reason I say to use a ring compressor is that you need to push the piston in perfectly straight so it slides in ...
when you attempt to install it by hand on a dry sleeve one tends to put it in at a slight angle ... ever so slight and it wont go in easy ...
I agree with you in the fact that I never recommend that somebody tell there machine shop to bore and hone to CP requirements ..... You always want to give the Pistons to the machine shop so they can individually check the piston diameter with a precise micrometer and then add the desired clearance to the final bore ...
for Forced induction pistons its usually 0.0035 or 0.0030 tolerance between the piston and sleeve ...
I had my machine shop bore using this method and then I took my pistons and bare block home and tested the tolerances myself with my own set of micrometers and a dial bore guage ...
By the way the last engine I built is running right(strong) now with perfect compression #s and leakdown tests ...
when you attempt to install it by hand on a dry sleeve one tends to put it in at a slight angle ... ever so slight and it wont go in easy ...
I agree with you in the fact that I never recommend that somebody tell there machine shop to bore and hone to CP requirements ..... You always want to give the Pistons to the machine shop so they can individually check the piston diameter with a precise micrometer and then add the desired clearance to the final bore ...
for Forced induction pistons its usually 0.0035 or 0.0030 tolerance between the piston and sleeve ...
I had my machine shop bore using this method and then I took my pistons and bare block home and tested the tolerances myself with my own set of micrometers and a dial bore guage ...
By the way the last engine I built is running right(strong) now with perfect compression #s and leakdown tests ...
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stop showing off
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Danny i told u to stop worrying about it. Your not even assembling the motor anyways so u dont need to worry about all this ****.
we'll see... you dont even have ur turbo yet
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LOL somebody's jealous
stop showing off
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Danny i told u to stop worrying about it. Your not even assembling the motor anyways so u dont need to worry about all this ****.
we'll see... you dont even have ur turbo yet
</TD></TR></TABLE>LOL somebody's jealous
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LOL somebody's jealous
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lol...maybe just alittle after seeing all the stuff he bought in person. I love those wheels. I want to order some now. I think they weight like 9lbs each. I always mess with him esp now that his car isn't even on the road. In a year or two
when his setup is put together and running, I'm sure i'll still be faster...
LOL somebody's jealous
</TD></TR></TABLE>lol...maybe just alittle after seeing all the stuff he bought in person. I love those wheels. I want to order some now. I think they weight like 9lbs each. I always mess with him esp now that his car isn't even on the road. In a year or two
when his setup is put together and running, I'm sure i'll still be faster...
Dasher, I agree with your standpoint. Also consider, my pistons left a 0.0009" clearance and wouldn't go in with or without a ring compressor until I got my bores radiused. If his pistons leave a similar tolerance, then I'm sure as ***** that he'd need to get it radiused as well. I'd call this the shops fault if they didn't suggest it in the first place.
Silverhatch, by any chance do you have a micrometer or access to one?
Silverhatch, by any chance do you have a micrometer or access to one?
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