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Old 04-03-2009, 03:35 PM
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I don't have this kit on my car yet so I can't post any hp #'s yet. I'm planning to drop in the 18th. But I do have all these items.

Ultimate Goal is 350hp at around 12 psi

B16a2
Stock Sleeves
Forged Internals
Bored .20 over
SRP 9.1:1 Pistons
Eagle Rods
All Oem Honda seals and gaskets
GSR cams
Turbonetics T3/T4 .57 Trim .63 A/R
Drag manifold - One of the more important things to replace right away.
Drag I/C - not to important yet. upgrading to precision 600
Some fake tial 38mm wastegate - upgrading to tial 38mm possibly?
Greddy BOV
2.5in dp and full exhaust - definetly going full 3in from turbo out.
RC 550cc injectors - I'll bump these up later.
Hondata s300
CM Stage 3 Clutch

Well there's the majority of it.

I know there's lots of items here limiting my power but I was curious of which would be THE MOST IMPORTANT to upgrade. and if you would tell me what I could upgrade it to.

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Hmmm...I think 3" exhaust would be my main priority. Followed by a different mani. But good tuning should be able to hit your goal all the same.

What are you doing for a clutch?
Old 04-03-2009, 04:20 PM
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Sorry forgot about that (added up there now). I got a clutch masters stage 3.

I was thinking exact same, full 3in out then get a better mani. I've had some people say these drag manifolds are horrible though and think I should get that first.
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Default Re: My B16 Setup... First upgrades?

you power goals a are bit high i think esp for that tubro. a t3-61 would get you closer to the power goals also it depend on the dyno how high or low it reads.

id consider getting some 750cc saturated injectors 550cc arent gona cut it for 350hp besides a 100% duty cycle= bad news.
map sensor (gm 3bars a popular)
i wouldnt rush the setup take your time do it the best you can changing parts will affect your tune and can bite you in the ***.
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I'd opt for AEM/Omni 4bar MAP. Plug and play and all that.

And at least 750cc injectors, as the post above mine says. Not only does it give you room to grow, but it's a large safety margin.

By and far, the manifold would be my second on the upgrade list followed by the exhaust.
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I'd opt for AEM/Omni 4bar MAP. Plug and play and all that.

And at least 750cc injectors, as the post above mine says. Not only does it give you room to grow, but it's a large safety margin.

By and far, the manifold would be my second on the upgrade list followed by the exhaust.
Alright I agree I would need the 750cc's I will grow out of my 550cc's pretty quick here... I will look into those pretty soon.

And I already got my 4bar map sensor shipping.

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you power goals a are bit high i think esp for that tubro. a t3-61 would get you closer to the power goals also it depend on the dyno how high or low it reads.

id consider getting some 750cc saturated injectors 550cc arent gona cut it for 350hp besides a 100% duty cycle= bad news.
map sensor (gm 3bars a popular)
i wouldnt rush the setup take your time do it the best you can changing parts will affect your tune and can bite you in the ***.
My turbo is fine for getting 450. Sure it might be getting close to topping out but I've seen plenty of boosted setups with this t3/t4 at 450hp...

If need be I always have the option of slappin a 30R or 35R on there. I'm not to worried about it.
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Default Re: My B16 Setup... First upgrades?

yeah im makeing 400whp at 16 psi on same turbo. Im going to turn boost up tueday and max mine out
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Originally Posted by EKlscoupe_98
yeah im makeing 400whp at 16 psi on same turbo. Im going to turn boost up tueday and max mine out

Dang very nice! can you post your setup?
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I would probably recommend getting rid of that no name wastegate first...
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Originally Posted by Ls_dx
I would probably recommend getting rid of that no name wastegate first...
Yea another possibility. To what though? What would be a good size? another 38mm?
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I strongly agree with Ls Dx on the wastegate thing. I started out with an OBX w/g and almost cost myself a motor. the damn thing kept sticking/coming apart and tried to overboost a couple times. good thing I had the boost cut set low. Tial is your best bet, but the size depends on the manifold you choose. 38mm should be fine but 40-42mm would be better. then do your exhaust.
don't get in a hurry, though. take your time and do it right the first time or you WILL be doing it again... ask me how I know....
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