Must have guages for a turbo?
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Must have guages for a turbo?
Ok so im buying the last items i need for my turbo build which are the guages. Ive been researching a bit and have decided to go for the AEM wideband , boost and oil pressure gauges..what do you guys think?
Also what brands do you guys recommend i get my boost and oil pressure guages? Any good quality guages for a good price? I was looking at some ebay ones for $30 but those look like sh#$ are they any good?
Also what brands do you guys recommend i get my boost and oil pressure guages? Any good quality guages for a good price? I was looking at some ebay ones for $30 but those look like sh#$ are they any good?
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Re: Must have guages for a turbo?
Oil pressure would be my #1 pick followed by a wideband then a boost gauge. Defi or AEM if you have the money otherwise Prosport have a less expensive series of gauges.
Whatever you do buy an electronic oil pressure gauge or at least mount the mechanical gauge (if you buy one) outside of the car on the cowl. You do not want a pressurized line of oil inside of your car.
Whatever you do buy an electronic oil pressure gauge or at least mount the mechanical gauge (if you buy one) outside of the car on the cowl. You do not want a pressurized line of oil inside of your car.
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Re: Must have guages for a turbo?
You chose the key gauges that are a good idea for a street car/regular use setup.
Oil pressure (is the most important) and Vac/Boost is also a good idea. AFR is not as necessary, since the tune "should" always work properly, although if you want the ability to keep an eye on your mixture, it won't hurt.
"looking cool" or not, I am running all AEM digital gauges. OIL-PRES/BOOST/AFR & EGT. More expensive than traditional analog, but the precision and quality is great.
The air temperature and weather in my area changes so rapidly that monitoring boost/AFR is completely necessary for quick adjustments.
I know guys pushing over 400-500whp on the street. No gauges. They trust the tune, the boost control and their setup. It's all personal preference.
Race cars usually integrate all sensors to a master unit like a STACK/AIM/RACEPAK cluster combined with datalogging. Still know alot of drag cars running gauges. Doesn't hurt to have back-up monitoring just in case.
Oil pressure (is the most important) and Vac/Boost is also a good idea. AFR is not as necessary, since the tune "should" always work properly, although if you want the ability to keep an eye on your mixture, it won't hurt.
"looking cool" or not, I am running all AEM digital gauges. OIL-PRES/BOOST/AFR & EGT. More expensive than traditional analog, but the precision and quality is great.
The air temperature and weather in my area changes so rapidly that monitoring boost/AFR is completely necessary for quick adjustments.
I know guys pushing over 400-500whp on the street. No gauges. They trust the tune, the boost control and their setup. It's all personal preference.
Race cars usually integrate all sensors to a master unit like a STACK/AIM/RACEPAK cluster combined with datalogging. Still know alot of drag cars running gauges. Doesn't hurt to have back-up monitoring just in case.
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Re: Must have guages for a turbo?
I would look into getting oil temp as well
To each there own but I have
Oil temp (autometer)
Oil pressure (autometer)
Boost (autometer)
Wideband (aem)
To each there own but I have
Oil temp (autometer)
Oil pressure (autometer)
Boost (autometer)
Wideband (aem)
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Re: Must have guages for a turbo?
You chose the key gauges that are a good idea for a street car/regular use setup.
Oil pressure (is the most important) and Vac/Boost is also a good idea. AFR is not as necessary, since the tune "should" always work properly, although if you want the ability to keep an eye on your mixture, it won't hurt.
"looking cool" or not, I am running all AEM digital gauges. OIL-PRES/BOOST/AFR & EGT. More expensive than traditional analog, but the precision and quality is great.
The air temperature and weather in my area changes so rapidly that monitoring boost/AFR is completely necessary for quick adjustments.
I know guys pushing over 400-500whp on the street. No gauges. They trust the tune, the boost control and their setup. It's all personal preference.
Race cars usually integrate all sensors to a master unit like a STACK/AIM/RACEPAK cluster combined with datalogging. Still know alot of drag cars running gauges. Doesn't hurt to have back-up monitoring just in case.
Oil pressure (is the most important) and Vac/Boost is also a good idea. AFR is not as necessary, since the tune "should" always work properly, although if you want the ability to keep an eye on your mixture, it won't hurt.
"looking cool" or not, I am running all AEM digital gauges. OIL-PRES/BOOST/AFR & EGT. More expensive than traditional analog, but the precision and quality is great.
The air temperature and weather in my area changes so rapidly that monitoring boost/AFR is completely necessary for quick adjustments.
I know guys pushing over 400-500whp on the street. No gauges. They trust the tune, the boost control and their setup. It's all personal preference.
Race cars usually integrate all sensors to a master unit like a STACK/AIM/RACEPAK cluster combined with datalogging. Still know alot of drag cars running gauges. Doesn't hurt to have back-up monitoring just in case.
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Re: Must have guages for a turbo?
Oil pressure
Oil temp (needed for a boosted car IMO)
Boost
Wideband
Egt
I run a few extras like intercooler inlet/outlet temp, exhaust manifold back pressure, air filter restriction gauge (lets me know when the filter needs to be cleaned or of my filter is improperly sized) I also run an oil pressure gauge at the turbo to make sure it receives the proper lubrication.
I also run individual egt and o2 sensors (wideband) to make sure each cylinder is performing properly. But I have all of this because I will be testing multiple turbo setups and I want to monitor key areas. Also the individual cylinder of makes sure each cylinder receives equal amounts of fuel, just because the main sensor in the downpipe might say 12:1 you could have one cylinder at 10:1 or another one running leaner.
You don't need most of that, but like I said, I'm trying multiple setups. You'd be amazed at how much power, torque, and response you can gain from getting each cylinder trimmed properly
Oil temp (needed for a boosted car IMO)
Boost
Wideband
Egt
I run a few extras like intercooler inlet/outlet temp, exhaust manifold back pressure, air filter restriction gauge (lets me know when the filter needs to be cleaned or of my filter is improperly sized) I also run an oil pressure gauge at the turbo to make sure it receives the proper lubrication.
I also run individual egt and o2 sensors (wideband) to make sure each cylinder is performing properly. But I have all of this because I will be testing multiple turbo setups and I want to monitor key areas. Also the individual cylinder of makes sure each cylinder receives equal amounts of fuel, just because the main sensor in the downpipe might say 12:1 you could have one cylinder at 10:1 or another one running leaner.
You don't need most of that, but like I said, I'm trying multiple setups. You'd be amazed at how much power, torque, and response you can gain from getting each cylinder trimmed properly
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Re: Must have guages for a turbo?
I know many guys that have dyno tuned with the tuners wideband, but don't run any gauges after the fact.
Crazy, I know...
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I don't run gauges. Just leave a wideband on the car that is hooked up to the ecu for lean protection. No gauge for the wideband, the controlled it wired to the ecu. If the car ever acts weird I just hook up the laptop.
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Re: Must have guages for a turbo?
Most important is wideband. Your car ran for years with no oil pressure gauge and no problem but its good to have. Generally if you lose pressure its to late anyhow depending on rpm your at when you lose pressure.
I have wideband and boost, also have tunerview so i can monitor any perameter the ecu logs in s300.
I have recently installed pressure sensors on my fuel rail and for oil pressure to datalog but this is also a drag car and not nessesary for street cars but you CAN do the oil pressure through the ecu and not have a gauge. EGt isnt nessesary either jus extra to have. I read my plugs so i dont bother with egt gauge
I have wideband and boost, also have tunerview so i can monitor any perameter the ecu logs in s300.
I have recently installed pressure sensors on my fuel rail and for oil pressure to datalog but this is also a drag car and not nessesary for street cars but you CAN do the oil pressure through the ecu and not have a gauge. EGt isnt nessesary either jus extra to have. I read my plugs so i dont bother with egt gauge
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It's a good idea to keep the dummy light for the oil pressure. It saved me one time I got a oil leak and didn't know it just cruising. Do you have any pics of your tunerview LS?
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I like wideband and water temp. Oil pressure is good and all, but most don't see a problem until its too late. Intercoolers can often cause airflow problems to the radiator so I say it's important on a turbo car to monitor water temp. Wideband for obvious reasons.
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Re: Must have guages for a turbo?
aside from the dual oil temp/oil pressure and wideband, i am thinking about this
http://thesensorconnection.com/gauge...obe-kit-gas-ra
i will have boost, IAT and CLT fed from the Neptune to TunerView RD.
http://thesensorconnection.com/gauge...obe-kit-gas-ra
i will have boost, IAT and CLT fed from the Neptune to TunerView RD.
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Re: Must have guages for a turbo?
Technically correct, but I was referring to after the tune is complete. I know alot of tuners provide their own wideband for tuning purposes and the owner having their own is his/her preference. Or the tuner can use an oldschool exhaust probe.
I know many guys that have dyno tuned with the tuners wideband, but don't run any gauges after the fact.
Crazy, I know...
I know many guys that have dyno tuned with the tuners wideband, but don't run any gauges after the fact.
Crazy, I know...
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