saemoonyang

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Ok guys, im new to the honda scene and was wondering if this will work or not.
Some local guy is selling a jackson supercharger for 1200 for a b16 engine so my question is, if I was to bolt this up to my high compression ls/vtec engine will it be a good idea or I shouldnt bother?

The car is my daily driver and would like some power on the freeway, is not for drag, race etc...

let me know, thanks

b20beast83

as long as u use a b16a head it will work

saemoonyang

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Is there anyway I can tell if its a b16a head instead of maybe an gsr, itr, ls?

b20beast83

type r head will work too


look at the manifold

or stamp on head should be pr3 i think

dc294lineman

ls/v jrsc in a eg will work buddy of mine made 11 psi @ 220hp 180tq nice D/D

saemoonyang

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thanks for the replies guys, I did look at the head and its a pr3-3 so its a b16 head.

BoldFart16

Sorry to thread jack. I am getting a great deal through a friend on an LS/VTEC but the head is a pretty built GSR (more aggressive cams, valves, valve springs, etc.) and this is pretty much exactly how I preferred to slap on some good power fairly quickly. Anyone with any experience? What are the downsides besides cost?

BoldFart16

Oh yeah and will my GSR work with a Jackson/Vortech supercharger?

BoldFart16

Bump

Dumplestiltskin.

Yes to both.

Dont go Vortech though, IMO.

Jackson kit is limited to around 300hp. But for more info hop into the JRSC thread. Lots of good info in there.

BoldFart16

Great. Why not Vortech though just out of curiosity? I've heard they are more reliable than Jackson, and reliability is why I'm going SC in the first place and not a turbo set up. I'm about to jump into the JRSC thread and try and do the comparisons myself but I would just like to know your thoughts. Also, Mr. Dumphrey, Dumplestiltskin, hilarious.

Rooftop voter

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Turbo is just as reliable if done right. There are pleanty of people who are driving turbo hondas for years without any problems.

paulzy

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how high is "high compression?"

BoldFart16

I guess I meant less-maintenance reliability.

Dumplestiltskin.

The Vortech might be easier to maintain than a Jackson kit, but thats only because of where the jackson kit is located. Once you get the hang of working around the pulley system / alternator, its really not a big deal.

The power from a Vortech is completely based on RPM. A Vortech dyno graph will be about a close to a straight line (linear) as you can get, peak power at peak rpm. Many people refer to Vortech'd cars as dyno queens. Very unusable powerband.

The jackson kit will give you peak tq all before ~3k rpms, and your hp curve picks up nicely after vtec x-over. Check out and compare some dyno graphs of the two different setups to really give yourself a better idea of what to expect.

cnydc2

The vortech kit will be easier to repair (if needed), but from my experiences the JRSC is very very reliable when installed correctly. A buddy of mine has had a JRSC on his d16z Si DD for over 4 years and have never had any big problems.

To OP the JRSC on the LS-V will be fine, just watch the CR. If you go too high pump gas will cause detonation, I think the rule of thumb is 10.5:1 CR is about as high as you would want to stay safe and reliable. But then again the with the right tune and injectors you could make almost anything work

Eviltek1989

yea im have a built ls vtek also but its only the bottom block thats buil has 12.1 compresion idk if its safe for supercharge on 10 pounds can someone help me with that also.... ooo and to spray on it at the track with the supercharger?

dpetro1

this is the million dollar question. high compression is going to make boosting more dangerous as detonation is more likely, especially on pump gas.

Eviltek1989

dawmmmm i am really lookn foward to the track and it being a dd so wat do u think i should go for??? im in need of some skooling first time do a supercharger or even messing with a high comp. motor

HiProfile

It will depend more on your pump gas octane. Some people say 11:1 is almost best for a JRSC, but that is usually with more than a fmu or jrsc controller. I wouldn't run 10psi with that motor, since a normal JRSC is starting to blow hot air at that point. If they are cast pistons, definately not a good idea.

Also, please don't bump old threads, make your own.

wunfstgsr

I had my built n.a motor w/ sk2 pro1 cams (11:7 comp.) gsr motor with a jrsc on 5psi , tunned at churches made decent power 230hp 160tq was my dd for a few months was a awsome motor imo never had any issues ever! thats churches tunning for ya! jg is building a motor for my jrsc and lht is doing some custom work on my jrsc manifold, you will be fine just tie open your bypass so the motor wont boost while driving untill you get to your tunner to tune the motor, these links should help you out alot!
http://www.ftlracing.com/tech/honda/JRSC.html
http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/c...c/compcalc.php
http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/jrsc/jrsc.php

Turbo-LS

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Turbo and dont look back. LOL here comes the flaming

iamthefollower

Turbo FTW...


Lol, j/k. I love my turbo, but was going to go supercharged before deciding to turbo my b16. Hope to see pics of your set up soon.

wunfstgsr

depends on what you want..
800+whp gsr coming soon..