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Old May 1, 2004 | 10:59 PM
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See I was fine with a bone stock motor at 200whp, but now with close to 300whp, it was lifting, I just put on a new OEM gasket as i blew two cometic's, and will do about 10 heat cycles, then re-torque and see what happenes. I talked with boosted-hybrid about it, and he gave me some tips.
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Old May 2, 2004 | 05:42 AM
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let us know what happens
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Old May 2, 2004 | 05:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ELSpool &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">See I was fine with a bone stock motor at 200whp, but now with close to 300whp, it was lifting, I just put on a new OEM gasket as i blew two cometic's, and will do about 10 heat cycles, then re-torque and see what happenes. I talked with boosted-hybrid about it, and he gave me some tips.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Let us know how it goes.
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Old May 2, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ELSpool &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">See I was fine with a bone stock motor at 200whp, but now with close to 300whp, it was lifting, I just put on a new OEM gasket as i blew two cometic's, and will do about 10 heat cycles, then re-torque and see what happenes. I talked with boosted-hybrid about it, and he gave me some tips.</TD></TR></TABLE>

share the tips!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old May 2, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ELSpool &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">See I was fine with a bone stock motor at 200whp, but now with close to 300whp, it was lifting, I just put on a new OEM gasket as i blew two cometic's, and will do about 10 heat cycles, then re-torque and see what happenes. I talked with boosted-hybrid about it, and he gave me some tips.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What tips did Jeff give you?
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Old May 2, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

What tips did Jeff give you?</TD></TR></TABLE>

don't be stingy... share with your fellow D-series turbo ninjas
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Old May 2, 2004 | 02:48 PM
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i had the same problem with my head lifting on my d16y8 turbo running 14psi, it blew 2 headgaskets , i never used arp bolts tho, maybe that was my problem, i even tightend them to 65 ft/lbs, , so i ended up scrapping it for an ls
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Old May 6, 2004 | 11:44 AM
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I'd llike to know some of these secrets as well
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Old May 6, 2004 | 11:57 AM
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boosted-hybrid basically said 65ft-lbs recommened was no way near enough. Most of his block he builds were set alot more as he has seen race teams go up to 95-100 ft-lbs. He also said cometic is a hit or miss for sealing. And recommened 10 heat cycels, then to re-torque. So, I've switch to OEM HG, it's a 75ft-lbs right now, and tomorrow after it cools down( had more than 10 heat cycles), i'm re-torquing to 78-80ft-lbs, then turning the Profec B back on and seeing what happens.

EDIT: I'm not saying everyone should do this practise as I have been told you can stretch the bolts, however, I'm trying it out as the other ways didn't work for me.


Modified by ELSpool at 9:15 PM 5/6/2004
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Old May 6, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ELSpool &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">boosted-hybrid basically said 65ft-lbs recommened was no way near enough. Most of his block he builds were set alot more as he has seen race teams go up to 95-100 ft-lbs. He also said cometic is a hit or miss for sealing. And recommened 10 heat cycels, then to re-torque. So, I've switch to OEM HG, it's a 75ft-lbs right now, and tomorrow after it cools down( had more than 10 heat cycles), i'm re-torquing to 78-80ft-lbs, then turning the Profec B back on and seeing what happens.

EDIT: I'm not saying everyone should do this practise as I have been told you can stretch the bolts, however, I'm trying it out as the other ways didn't work for me.


Modified by ELSpool at 9:15 PM 5/6/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>

Mine are at 65 ft lbs right now. After hearing that I am considering retorquing them to 70-75 ft lbs.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 12:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by preludeboy79 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well I just installed the Cometic HP Gasket with the copper seal spray and torqued it down to 65 in 2 steps. IT is holding 18 PSI so far. I will keep you updated to see if it holds.

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so hows it holding up??
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Old May 6, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Mine are at 65 ft lbs right now. After hearing that I am considering retorquing them to 70-75 ft lbs.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Guys, remember, these are smaller studs. 65 should be sufficient. IMO
I still think there is somethign else wrong. Let us know how it goes EL!!!

Good Luck!!
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Old May 6, 2004 | 01:54 PM
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o-ring the block that will take care of it
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Old May 7, 2004 | 09:18 AM
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this just happened to me.

it held at 13 psi and 200whp , but blew with a bigger turbo and 9psi and 237whp.

i guess i will try with 65 on the bolts

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Old May 7, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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if your torque over the recomended 60. cant that damage your head.

how high can your torque these before it's at a unsafe level

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Old May 7, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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ive gone to 70 , so im sure its ok
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Old May 7, 2004 | 10:57 PM
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is it still possible to stretch ARP headstuds by retourqing after a couple heat cycles?
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Old May 8, 2004 | 12:53 AM
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anythings possible , but it shouldnt happen . if it does recheck your torque...
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Old May 8, 2004 | 06:44 AM
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well after 10 heats cycels, only one stud actually moved, and only a hair. Went up to 80ft-lbs and none of them moved. Actaully got on the throttle lastnight and to my surprise, the head has not lifted..yet. Keep you posted as I beat the car more
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Old May 8, 2004 | 07:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ELSpool &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Keep you posted as I beat the car more </TD></TR></TABLE>

Famous last words.....
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