Largest intercooler on a honda
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,592
Likes: 0
From: not riding any bandwagons in, massachusetts, usa
...not necessarily true. intercooler matching charge pipe diameter is best case scenario. changing a pipe's diameter mid-stream will alter velocity, bernoulli principle shows relationship between velocity and pressure are inverse. increasing diameter can result in INCREASED pressure. increase in pressure at intercooler would make me believe that the turbo has to work harder to pump through it. this is theoretical, i dont have any personal test experience on that.
weird stuff huh?
weird stuff huh?
The Bernoulli equation only applies for certain values of the Reynold's number. This would be true in a liquid traveling at intake velocities but it is almost negligible in a low-pressure gas. In this case, the boundry layer effect is much, much more prominant. I actually mistated, two 2" pipes would flow more like one 2.5" pipe.
Honda-Tech Member
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,592
Likes: 0
From: not riding any bandwagons in, massachusetts, usa
im no engineer or dynamicist, but from what ive read about critical flow venturis it seems greater than neglibible in degree, and is also supported by the gains from venturi merged collectors (transitions/megaphones) in high end headers.
now that you mentioned an error in your previous post, i just realized that it says two 2" ... i first thought you were saying go from 2" to 3", which is what i was against. i think dual inlet/outlet would depend a lot on the tanks, but i really dont know much about it.
now that you mentioned an error in your previous post, i just realized that it says two 2" ... i first thought you were saying go from 2" to 3", which is what i was against. i think dual inlet/outlet would depend a lot on the tanks, but i really dont know much about it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beepy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you really wanted to improve the efficiency of a larger intercooler, why wouldn't you use end tanks with two 2" inlets and outlets instead of one 3" inlet and outlet? The flow would be the same and it would ensure equal pressures throughout the core. Maybe its just too hard to make the pipes all fit.</TD></TR></TABLE>
this is a good idea acutally because this makes the air utilize the entire intercooler more efficiently...if the end tanks are done right
this will alllow the air to go through the whole intercooler more evenly spread out than having single inlet/out near the top or bottom, or even the middle for that matter
basically what you would want to do is have two 2" inlets that were centered on the intercooler, say 4" from the top and one 4" from the bottom...from the turbo, you would have one pipe 3" that branched smoothly to two 2" into the intercooler...that way there would be no restriction and no fitment problems
then you could use the same set-up reversed on the exit side of the intercooler or you could use one 3 1/2" or 4" pipe...using one big *** pipe is only beneficial if your throttle body is also very large
I probably will try something along these lines
this is a good idea acutally because this makes the air utilize the entire intercooler more efficiently...if the end tanks are done right
this will alllow the air to go through the whole intercooler more evenly spread out than having single inlet/out near the top or bottom, or even the middle for that matter
basically what you would want to do is have two 2" inlets that were centered on the intercooler, say 4" from the top and one 4" from the bottom...from the turbo, you would have one pipe 3" that branched smoothly to two 2" into the intercooler...that way there would be no restriction and no fitment problems
then you could use the same set-up reversed on the exit side of the intercooler or you could use one 3 1/2" or 4" pipe...using one big *** pipe is only beneficial if your throttle body is also very large
I probably will try something along these lines
end tank design honestly doesn't matter..
I asked the quesiton earlier, and he said it depends. Which normally means endtank design doesn't matter on a 200-350whp street car which is most boosted cars on HT are..
so with this debate about entank design, you guys are just fooling your self.
I asked the quesiton earlier, and he said it depends. Which normally means endtank design doesn't matter on a 200-350whp street car which is most boosted cars on HT are..
so with this debate about entank design, you guys are just fooling your self.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integlspwr2k »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">end tank design honestly doesn't matter..
I asked the quesiton earlier, and he said it depends. Which normally means endtank design doesn't matter on a 200-350whp street car which is most boosted cars on HT are..
so with this debate about entank design, you guys are just fooling your self.</TD></TR></TABLE>
that is probably true of 200-350 whp applications, but I am not going for that
I asked the quesiton earlier, and he said it depends. Which normally means endtank design doesn't matter on a 200-350whp street car which is most boosted cars on HT are..
so with this debate about entank design, you guys are just fooling your self.</TD></TR></TABLE>
that is probably true of 200-350 whp applications, but I am not going for that
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integra-modder »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
nice e-cutout
.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yea right. It fell apart within a month.
nice e-cutout
.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yea right. It fell apart within a month.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pimpintyperintegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
that is probably true of 200-350 whp applications, but I am not going for that</TD></TR></TABLE>
so your going for a 450-550whp?
even then, a off the shelf endtank will work, you will see minimal lost in HP...
that is probably true of 200-350 whp applications, but I am not going for that</TD></TR></TABLE>
so your going for a 450-550whp?
even then, a off the shelf endtank will work, you will see minimal lost in HP...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integlspwr2k »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
so your going for a 450-550whp?
even then, a off the shelf endtank will work, you will see minimal lost in HP...</TD></TR></TABLE>
actually like 800+...or more...the most i can make without running methanol basically
so every little bit helps
so your going for a 450-550whp?
even then, a off the shelf endtank will work, you will see minimal lost in HP...</TD></TR></TABLE>
actually like 800+...or more...the most i can make without running methanol basically
so every little bit helps
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pimpintyperintegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
actually like 800+...or more...the most i can make without running methanol basically
so every little bit helps
</TD></TR></TABLE>
nice, there was a integra here in hawaii that made 810whp with out NOS.
actually like 800+...or more...the most i can make without running methanol basically
so every little bit helps
</TD></TR></TABLE>nice, there was a integra here in hawaii that made 810whp with out NOS.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integlspwr2k »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
nice, there was a integra here in hawaii that made 810whp with out NOS.</TD></TR></TABLE>
that is bad ***...was it endless garage's?
nice, there was a integra here in hawaii that made 810whp with out NOS.</TD></TR></TABLE>
that is bad ***...was it endless garage's?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike_belben@yahoo.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i lived in HNL for a few years, whos car/what shop?</TD></TR></TABLE>
it was dynoed at Endless garage, but i dont think its a endless garage car.
it was dynoed at Endless garage, but i dont think its a endless garage car.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pimpintyperintegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
that is bad ***...was it endless garage's?</TD></TR></TABLE>
it was dynoed there, but i dont think its a endless garage car.
that is bad ***...was it endless garage's?</TD></TR></TABLE>
it was dynoed there, but i dont think its a endless garage car.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2000civicsi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He is a pic of my intercooler. It a daily drive 00 civic SI
</TD></TR></TABLE>
I really dont like the idea of removing or cutting the security beam... you never know when it could be useful....
</TD></TR></TABLE>I really dont like the idea of removing or cutting the security beam... you never know when it could be useful....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crazyitr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Check this out!

</TD></TR></TABLE>
any more pics of this setup... looks clean as hell !!! and well built too !

</TD></TR></TABLE>any more pics of this setup... looks clean as hell !!! and well built too !
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yellowturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any more pics of this setup... looks clean as hell !!! and well built too !
</TD></TR></TABLE>
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1111206
</TD></TR></TABLE>https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1111206
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slick GS-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Aren't turnsignals kinda ... umm ... necessary for street cars?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not if your hardcore like me
</TD></TR></TABLE>Not if your hardcore like me
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slick GS-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Aren't turnsignals kinda ... umm ... necessary for street cars?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
not if you have a super sick intercooler like that.
</TD></TR></TABLE>not if you have a super sick intercooler like that.




