let me know what you think.

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just got the car back from the dyno.. running a stock 1st gen b16 bottom end the car made 314 hp, 11.8~11.9 a/f ratio's, 10-11psi, 26 degrees of timing on 93 octane. the car was not running the z10 oil system.

 

what happend to the good motor?
why no z10 oil system?

Power sounds good for what it is... Turn the boost up

 

well... the other engine... i beat on it with no tune... had it turning 12,000 rpm, pushing around 22psi. the thing was fast as *****. the piston ring lands got "squished" and they were tight against the rings, so the rings were not seating/ sealing.. the block is at the machine shop right now, im putting some pistons in it that i had laying around and than im gonna really turn up the boost.

 

You grenade your good motor?

 

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good lord


Modified by Boltz at 12:36 AM 10/15/2004

 

What kind of turbo is used to push those kind of numbers with a B16?

 

12,000 RPM's!! You using some kind of crotch rocket motor or something?%@$?!! Holy Crap!!

 

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lol, YOU TOLD ME SO

just scuffed the walls, only needed a slight hone and a new set of pistons and bearings

 

12000 rpm ????? wanna tell us how
nice numbers with b16, but is it timming too high for 93 octane?

 

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built head, built bottom end,speed pro

who knows if it was making power, but it was definitly up there more than 10 times.

 

Make sure they loosen up the Piston-Wall Clearance if your seriously gonna be turning that rpm...the heat makes the pistons expand alot.

12krpm is out of control tho...prolly only makes power to 9.

 

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haha....
What turbo?

 

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its a garrett t66.

Good to see you got it running again dave... I'm gonna stop by later on today, hopefully you'll be outside.

 

Nice, when you get the other block back in come back to West Chester.

 

i remeber reading a post on some one reving it up to 12g and was told it wasnt gonna last long ... i guess the futuretells the truth. ouch

 

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"minor" correction.

the turbo is a turbonetics turbo, ball bearing t66 P trim and i swaped the exhauzt housing from the one that came with the turbo., i belive the compressor side is a 58 a/r and the exhuast side has a .81 a/r housing on it right now.

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yea, i hear that, im gonna lean on it, until the car stops making power. so im sure i wont be turning 12k

 

With a .81 a/r housing that has a potiental of 800whp on gas...

 

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lol, soon enough. 800 hp is a deadly weapon.

thanks again for your help

 

26 Deg is alot for a stock motor on pump...

 

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I'd also turn it down

 

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i was thinking the same thing about that, if i back the timing off, wont the car run even richer than it is alreay running up top? help me out here, im just getting into this speed-pro/fast

 

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i was thinking the same thing about that, if i back the timing off, wont the car run even richer than it is alreay running up top? help me out here, im just getting into this speed-pro/fast</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not really. I would leave the AF (or keep it around there (~12). Try turning the timing down. This will allow the motor to last longer. Maybe around 21 around 12 psi. Doesn't matter what EMS this is what I would do with any of them.

 

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No just giving it more timing or less timing doesn't affect A/F.

 

Changing Timing only change AFR when yu make drastic timing changes.

Normally if you retard the **** out of the timing...youll have fuel burning in the turbine housing\downpipe...Distorts your AFR Reading.