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10-14-2004, 05:36 PM

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just got back from the dyno.

let me know what you think.

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just got the car back from the dyno.. running a stock 1st gen b16 bottom end the car made 314 hp, 11.8~11.9 a/f ratio's, 10-11psi, 26 degrees of timing on 93 octane. the car was not running the z10 oil system.

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10-14-2004, 05:38 PM

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Re: just got back from the dyno. (Dturbocivic)

what happend to the good motor?
why no z10 oil system?

Power sounds good for what it is... Turn the boost up

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10-14-2004, 05:41 PM

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Re: just got back from the dyno. (This One)

well... the other engine... i beat on it with no tune... had it turning 12,000 rpm, pushing around 22psi. the thing was fast as *****. the piston ring lands got "squished" and they were tight against the rings, so the rings were not seating/ sealing.. the block is at the machine shop right now, im putting some pistons in it that i had laying around and than im gonna really turn up the boost.

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10-14-2004, 05:42 PM

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Re: just got back from the dyno. (Dturbocivic)

You grenade your good motor?

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10-14-2004, 05:42 PM

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Re: just got back from the dyno. (Dturbocivic)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dturbocivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well... the other engine... i beat on it with no tune... had it turning 12,000 rpm, pushing around 22psi. the thing was fast as *****. the piston ring lands got "squished" and they were tight against the rings, so the rings were not seating/ sealing.. the block is at the machine shop right now, im putting some pistons in it that i had laying around and than im gonna really turn up the boost.</TD></TR></TABLE>

good lord

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10-14-2004, 05:46 PM

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Re: just got back from the dyno. (Dturbocivic)

What kind of turbo is used to push those kind of numbers with a B16?

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10-14-2004, 05:49 PM

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Re: just got back from the dyno. (TurboSmart)

12,000 RPM's!! You using some kind of crotch rocket motor or something?%@$?!! Holy Crap!!

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10-14-2004, 05:55 PM

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Re: just got back from the dyno. (Suprdave)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suprdave »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You grenade your good motor?</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol, YOU TOLD ME SO

just scuffed the walls, only needed a slight hone and a new set of pistons and bearings

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10-14-2004, 05:58 PM

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Re: just got back from the dyno. (Dturbocivic)

12000 rpm ????? wanna tell us how
nice numbers with b16, but is it timming too high for 93 octane?

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10-14-2004, 06:00 PM

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Re: just got back from the dyno. (ek9turbo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek9turbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">12000 rpm ????? wanna tell us how
nice numbers with b16, but is it timming too high for 93 octane?</TD></TR></TABLE>

built head, built bottom end,speed pro

who knows if it was making power, but it was definitly up there more than 10 times.

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10-14-2004, 06:01 PM

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Re: just got back from the dyno. (Dturbocivic)

Make sure they loosen up the Piston-Wall Clearance if your seriously gonna be turning that rpm...the heat makes the pistons expand alot.

12krpm is out of control tho...prolly only makes power to 9.

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10-14-2004, 07:39 PM

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Re: just got back from the dyno. (Suprdave)

[QUOTE=Suprdave]

12krpm is out of control tho...QUOTE]

haha....
What turbo?

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10-15-2004, 12:41 AM

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Re: just got back from the dyno. (This One)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by This One »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">[QUOTE=Suprdave]

12krpm is out of control tho...QUOTE]

haha....
What turbo?</TD></TR></TABLE>

its a garrett t66.

Good to see you got it running again dave... I'm gonna stop by later on today, hopefully you'll be outside.

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10-15-2004, 01:01 AM

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Re: just got back from the dyno. (Jamison)

Nice, when you get the other block back in come back to West Chester.

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10-15-2004, 01:18 AM

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i remeber reading a post on some one reving it up to 12g and was told it wasnt gonna last long ... i guess the futuretells the truth. ouch

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10-15-2004, 02:00 AM

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Re: just got back from the dyno. (Jamison)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jamison »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

its a garrett T66</TD></TR></TABLE>

"minor" correction.

the turbo is a turbonetics turbo, ball bearing t66 P trim and i swaped the exhauzt housing from the one that came with the turbo., i belive the compressor side is a 58 a/r and the exhuast side has a .81 a/r housing on it right now.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suprdave »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">12krpm is out of control tho...prolly only makes power to 9.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea, i hear that, im gonna lean on it, until the car stops making power. so im sure i wont be turning 12k

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10-15-2004, 08:49 AM

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Re: just got back from the dyno. (Dturbocivic)

With a .81 a/r housing that has a potiental of 800whp on gas...

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10-15-2004, 08:52 AM

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOUNDEFFECTS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With a .81 a/r housing that has a potiental of 800whp on gas...</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol, soon enough. 800 hp is a deadly weapon.

thanks again for your help

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10-15-2004, 09:35 AM

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Re: just got back from the dyno. (Dturbocivic)

26 Deg is alot for a stock motor on pump...

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10-15-2004, 10:03 AM

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mpir3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">26 Deg is alot for a stock motor on pump...</TD></TR></TABLE>

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10-15-2004, 10:59 AM

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10-15-2004, 11:01 AM

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ladysman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I'd also turn it down </TD></TR></TABLE>

i was thinking the same thing about that, if i back the timing off, wont the car run even richer than it is alreay running up top? help me out here, im just getting into this speed-pro/fast

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Re: just got back from the dyno. (Dturbocivic)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dturbocivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i was thinking the same thing about that, if i back the timing off, wont the car run even richer than it is alreay running up top? help me out here, im just getting into this speed-pro/fast</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not really. I would leave the AF (or keep it around there (~12). Try turning the timing down. This will allow the motor to last longer. Maybe around 21 around 12 psi. Doesn't matter what EMS this is what I would do with any of them.

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10-15-2004, 11:16 AM

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dturbocivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i was thinking the same thing about that, if i back the timing off, wont the car run even richer than it is alreay running up top? help me out here, im just getting into this speed-pro/fast</TD></TR></TABLE>

No just giving it more timing or less timing doesn't affect A/F.

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10-15-2004, 11:19 AM

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Re: just got back from the dyno. (ladysman)

Changing Timing only change AFR when yu make drastic timing changes.

Normally if you retard the **** out of the timing...youll have fuel burning in the turbine housing\downpipe...Distorts your AFR Reading.

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