Tdawg1030

I need to get intercooler piping for my setup. some guy said he could put together some piping for me, except its aluminum. Would aluminum be okay?

z6

no rustie

2point2

aluminum is the best you could use. the ony reason why everyone doesn't use it is because it's expensive and needs to be TIG welded.

Tdawg1030

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BoostedCivicSedan

Could you do it in all 2.5"??? And what intercooler is it designed for use with???

88crxhfb16

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostedCivicSedan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And what intercooler is it designed for use with???</TD></TR></TABLE>

WTF?? any intercooler.

igo4bmx

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by streamline1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We have aluminum intercooler piping kits for EG/EK chassis with D or B series engines for 225.00 shipped if you haven't already found anything else. It is sized at 2.00" from the turbo to the intercooler and 2.25" from the intercooler to the TB. Comes with either Tial or Greddy flange

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why is the piping so small?
it would be better with the 2.5 piping from the IC to TB...

and would you even offer just the piping from the ic to the tb?

Urban Camo

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 88crxhfb16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

WTF?? any intercooler.</TD></TR></TABLE>
LOL

mkinpwrat12g's

get a ups truck intercooler i heard they were like 45x35x3

Laserjock

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by streamline1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We have aluminum intercooler piping kits for EG/EK chassis with D or B series engines for 225.00 shipped if you haven't already found anything else. It is sized at 2.00" from the turbo to the intercooler and 2.25" from the intercooler to the TB. Comes with either Tial or Greddy flange

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by igo4bmx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

why is the piping so small?
it would be better with the 2.5 piping from the IC to TB...

and would you even offer just the piping from the ic to the tb?</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's a good price for aluminum piping! Does it come chrome plated like in the pic or is it bare Al? I would be willing to pay a little more for full 2.5" turbo to IC to throttle body. PM me a price for a full 2.5" setup for a D-series. Let me know turn-around time and total price for method of payment.

Pics of the piping installed in a customer's car?

KeyserSoze

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by igo4bmx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

why is the piping so small?
it would be better with the 2.5 piping from the IC to TB...

and would you even offer just the piping from the ic to the tb?</TD></TR></TABLE>

2" piping
1.57 x 2 = 3.14 sq in
300 cfm = 156 mph = 0.20 mach
400 cfm = 208 mph = 0.27 mach
500 cfm = 261 mph = 0.34 mach
585 cfm max = 304 mph = 0.40 mach


2.25" piping
3.9740625 sq in = 1.98703125 x 2
300 cfm = 123 mph = 0.16 mach
400 cfm = 164 mph = 0.21 mach
500 cfm = 205 mph = 0.26 mach
600 cfm = 247 mph = 0.32 mach
700 cfm = 288 mph = 0.37 mach
740 cfm max = 304 mph = 0.40 mach


2.5" piping
4.90625 sq in = 2.453125 x 2
300 cfm = 100 mph = 0.13 mach
400 cfm = 133 mph = 0.17 mach
500 cfm = 166 mph = 0.21 mach
600 cfm = 200 mph = 0.26 mach
700 cfm = 233 mph = 0.30 mach
800 cfm = 266 mph = 0.34 mach
900 cfm = 300 mph = 0.39 mach
913 cfm max = 304 mph = 0.40 mach

from https://honda-tech.com/zero...02591

I wouldn't want the 2", but the 2.25" would prolly be okay for most setups. 740cfm = ~51lb/min right? So, the 2.5" should be good up to ~63lb/min. The age old semi-accurate analogy is that 1lb/min = 10hp. Nice looking piping though, pm me a price on some full 2.25" and 2.5" for an eg with a b-series kit.

BoostedCivicSedan

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 88crxhfb16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WTF?? any intercooler.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Kinda funny how you tried to look smart and ended up looking like a douche....

Do you think every intercooler is the same size??? NO... And do they all have the inlet and outlet in the same place??? NO... Some have the inlet/outlet on the bottom, some in the middle, some people like to flip them so they are on top, they are all different... Granted Im sure you could hack it up to make it work with just about any cooler, but personally, I wouldnt wanna pay X amount of money for some pretty shiny pipes, just to have to cut them... And what happens if someone has a small cooler, and the pipes dont even reach the cooler??? hmmmm... Im sure you could figure something out since you seem to be the smartest man on Honda-Tech...

Thanks again for tryin to be a smart ***... Seems as if you failed miserably

2point2

buying a universal IC piping kit is like buying a universal front bumper.. how the hell can you expect it to fit without modification?

Snail EK

Carlito Brigante

Peakboost... $339 shipped
2.5" all the way.. PWR couplers, Tbolt Clamps..

Mild Steel. Powder coat add $100.. Tial Flanged standard, we can put whatever flange you want on it as well for $20 more.

AF-P's peakboost charge pipe kit page - http://www.af-performance.com/...&pg=0

little eye candy..

downeyballz

does someone sell an aluminum piping kit with only the papes from the into the tb. i dont want to buy a full kit because i have traction bars in the way and my turbo is at a weird angle because of my ac compatible manifold, so the turbo to ic section needs to be custom

BoostedCivicSedan

Im glad I had piping custom made for my setup... Seems as if some people go through a lot of hassle to make all the piping work... It has always been my belief that the shorter you make it, and with the least bends/angles, the better...

I currently run all 2.5" mild steel piping, with a thermal berrier coating, my piping has 3 45 degree angles, 2 90degress, and 1 180degree bend.. (all mandrel of course) And it is a total of 3 pipes, all bead rolled on the ends... 1 hot, 2 cold... My intercooler is 31"x12"x3.5" w/ 2.75" inlet and outlet... Pretty custom app if you ask me... Luckily I had someone locally do all my fab work, and he did the piping for $225 (parts, labor, coating, and install, including mounting the intercooler and making brackets)



What does this have to do with anything??? I dont know but who cares... I got it for cheap so Im happy...

BoostedCivicSedan

Pic of charge pipe routing

KeyserSoze

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by streamline1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The piping was originally developed in 2.5" from the turbo to the throttle body. After the piping configuration was changed to the 2/2.25 setup, there was a noticable increase in throttle response throughout the entire powerband. </TD></TR></TABLE>

The response was better because the piping is smaller and is thus quicker to pressurize. The only disadvantage is that the two inch piping is mathematically limited to flowing 585cfm (~40.365 lb/min, using .069 as the conversion constant, of course this will change at different altitudes). So, if I was looking into making more than ~400hp I would need larger diameter piping than the 2". Your kit is really nice though I would deffinately buy it if it was at least 2.25".

I might just get it anyway though since 400 will most likely be my max, it's $225 for polished OR coated black??

Laserjock

streamline1, I pm'd you

tony1

What intake and exhaust manifolds will this work with?

downeyballz

i have a garett gt35r turbo and it flows 65lb/min = around 900cfm? i was palnning on using 2" from the turbo to the intercooler then 2.5. but the 2" onlu flows 500cfm, will this hurt my performance?

tony1

At the very least you should run the same size piping as the outlet of the turbo. I highly doubt you really saw a difference in throttle response from 2.25 to 2.5". The volume of air that is moving through the system is so great that that small difference in piping volume will hardly make a difference at all. Ever see the turbo mustangs that run 4-5" piping with the intercooler where the passenger seat or back seat would be?

KeyserSoze

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">At the very least you should run the same size piping as the outlet of the turbo. I highly doubt you really saw a difference in throttle response from 2.25 to 2.5". The volume of air that is moving through the system is so great that that small difference in piping volume will hardly make a difference at all. Ever see the turbo mustangs that run 4-5" piping with the intercooler where the passenger seat or back seat would be? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought that he meant that they went from 2.5" to 2". Anyway Tony, do you think that this is relavant ---&gt; https://honda-tech.com/zero...02591

tony1

Well, without reading that whole other post, i'm assuming you're referring to velocity in the pipes. I don't think that is relevant in this situation because of the restriction at the end, the valves. The pipe is pressurized because of the restriction. If there was nothing on the other end then it would be a different story, but the engine being the restriction is what causes pressure (boost). Since you can only flow air while the valves are open, the velocity of the pipes doesn't come into play, as long as the intake manifold maintains pressure. That's my thinking anyways.