INLINEPRO HEADGASKETS - for the non believers(and the newbies).......
the headgasket will really help on a vtec motor rigth
like on my h23 i really make that much more power by lower compression and uping the the boost or will I
do u know anyone that put one on a motor with compression in the 9.'s
like on my h23 i really make that much more power by lower compression and uping the the boost or will I
do u know anyone that put one on a motor with compression in the 9.'s
WOW! what a interesting thread!! love the competiton! But all jokes aside yes i think with PROPER tuning these numbers ARE impressive on sotck stuff without rebuilds. Hey i had my share of trial and error this is what i ended up with just look down and keep in mind i DO NOT own pair of slicks. Cant wait for inlines d series head gasket..... maybe? if you made one lemme know...
P.S. Is everyone this envious??
P.S. Is everyone this envious??
88' CRX 1.5 MPFI Swap AND Boosted @ 1 bar (Yee Technologies Turbo Kit)
Stock: rods, pistons,crank,rings,head,cam,ign,fuel pump
1/4 mile et: 12.89@ 120.36 mph
60' ft: 2.45
if those #'s are on street tires, you are the man. 1.5 liter and all.
Stock: rods, pistons,crank,rings,head,cam,ign,fuel pump
1/4 mile et: 12.89@ 120.36 mph
60' ft: 2.45
if those #'s are on street tires, you are the man. 1.5 liter and all.
The mafia soldier bit is a long story, but to sum it up, it does not mean I am any more knowledgeable or experienced than the next guy.
You are right, not everyone with turbo has deep pockets - but anyone who gets work done at inline absolutely has to have money that they don't know what to do with.
We have very different concepts of reliability. I can drive my car to a drag strip, or autox -yes, a turbo honda that will go left AND right!- and KNOW that I will be driving my car home, in the same condition it came. Not everyone builds their hondas to be 1/4mi terrors, in fact, anyone that does so is really fighting against physics and their bank accounts. Inline builds some quick hondas, no question there. But, they also blow more motors than anyone I've ever heard of. There are of course examples where a high boost inline motor here or there has lasted a while, but those motors are definately the exception, not the rule.
By coming on here touting the inline head gasket like it's a miracle device that allows anybody to run 18+psi from a large turbo on a stock block you are not helping anybody do anything except blow their motor. Is inline going to give away their VAFC settings for different boost levels with each head gasket? I honestly don't know, but my guess is the answer will be somewhere in the neighborhood of "every motor is different, we will tune it for you, for the bargain price of ... (something outrageous)" Now this is getting exponentially more expensive. And oops, one hot day you detonate once (remember, your tuning to the bleeding edge of safety here) - not inline's fault, but with the obscene cylinder pressures you're running, that rebuild isn't going to be cheap... see where I'm going here?
You are right, not everyone with turbo has deep pockets - but anyone who gets work done at inline absolutely has to have money that they don't know what to do with.
We have very different concepts of reliability. I can drive my car to a drag strip, or autox -yes, a turbo honda that will go left AND right!- and KNOW that I will be driving my car home, in the same condition it came. Not everyone builds their hondas to be 1/4mi terrors, in fact, anyone that does so is really fighting against physics and their bank accounts. Inline builds some quick hondas, no question there. But, they also blow more motors than anyone I've ever heard of. There are of course examples where a high boost inline motor here or there has lasted a while, but those motors are definately the exception, not the rule.
By coming on here touting the inline head gasket like it's a miracle device that allows anybody to run 18+psi from a large turbo on a stock block you are not helping anybody do anything except blow their motor. Is inline going to give away their VAFC settings for different boost levels with each head gasket? I honestly don't know, but my guess is the answer will be somewhere in the neighborhood of "every motor is different, we will tune it for you, for the bargain price of ... (something outrageous)" Now this is getting exponentially more expensive. And oops, one hot day you detonate once (remember, your tuning to the bleeding edge of safety here) - not inline's fault, but with the obscene cylinder pressures you're running, that rebuild isn't going to be cheap... see where I'm going here?
jinXman!! jj is here to help if you need any..
anyway your **** is the bomb! i can't wait to see your new set up.
hey do you have a spare trans. that you wanna sell?
[Modified by jjgotboost, 12:11 AM 12/15/2001]
anyway your **** is the bomb! i can't wait to see your new set up.
hey do you have a spare trans. that you wanna sell?
[Modified by jjgotboost, 12:11 AM 12/15/2001]
The mafia soldier bit is a long story, but to sum it up, it does not mean I am any more knowledgeable or experienced than the next guy.
You are right, not everyone with turbo has deep pockets - but anyone who gets work done at inline absolutely has to have money that they don't know what to do with.
We have very different concepts of reliability. I can drive my car to a drag strip, or autox -yes, a turbo honda that will go left AND right!- and KNOW that I will be driving my car home, in the same condition it came. Not everyone builds their hondas to be 1/4mi terrors, in fact, anyone that does so is really fighting against physics and their bank accounts. Inline builds some quick hondas, no question there. But, they also blow more motors than anyone I've ever heard of. There are of course examples where a high boost inline motor here or there has lasted a while, but those motors are definately the exception, not the rule.
By coming on here touting the inline head gasket like it's a miracle device that allows anybody to run 18+psi from a large turbo on a stock block you are not helping anybody do anything except blow their motor. Is inline going to give away their VAFC settings for different boost levels with each head gasket? I honestly don't know, but my guess is the answer will be somewhere in the neighborhood of "every motor is different, we will tune it for you, for the bargain price of ... (something outrageous)" Now this is getting exponentially more expensive. And oops, one hot day you detonate once (remember, your tuning to the bleeding edge of safety here) - not inline's fault, but with the obscene cylinder pressures you're running, that rebuild isn't going to be cheap... see where I'm going here?
You are right, not everyone with turbo has deep pockets - but anyone who gets work done at inline absolutely has to have money that they don't know what to do with.
We have very different concepts of reliability. I can drive my car to a drag strip, or autox -yes, a turbo honda that will go left AND right!- and KNOW that I will be driving my car home, in the same condition it came. Not everyone builds their hondas to be 1/4mi terrors, in fact, anyone that does so is really fighting against physics and their bank accounts. Inline builds some quick hondas, no question there. But, they also blow more motors than anyone I've ever heard of. There are of course examples where a high boost inline motor here or there has lasted a while, but those motors are definately the exception, not the rule.
By coming on here touting the inline head gasket like it's a miracle device that allows anybody to run 18+psi from a large turbo on a stock block you are not helping anybody do anything except blow their motor. Is inline going to give away their VAFC settings for different boost levels with each head gasket? I honestly don't know, but my guess is the answer will be somewhere in the neighborhood of "every motor is different, we will tune it for you, for the bargain price of ... (something outrageous)" Now this is getting exponentially more expensive. And oops, one hot day you detonate once (remember, your tuning to the bleeding edge of safety here) - not inline's fault, but with the obscene cylinder pressures you're running, that rebuild isn't going to be cheap... see where I'm going here?
first of all, this thread got started by another one being closed....its along story and its over now. my problem with you is that your ideas are based on fiction, not fact. you say inline is unbelievably expensive. what about altered or cde? seeing how all three do great work, i can understand they're not for the homeless/welfare. second, i drove my car everyday at 280 hsp on pump gas(until i just swtched race fuel only). i think thats what i'd call reliable. either way, pump or race, it was fast and reliable. now wheres all these motors that are blowing. i know a few dumbasses that blew some motors(not only from inline, but from everywhere), but who doesn't. i mean, look at the work coming out of nu image, new again, autoauthoriy, vetrex......i mean ****....complete ****. if you buy your parts from inline, go install/tune it yourself, and blow your motor......who's at fault, inline?? i think not. if you but a headgasket from them, they will help you with the afc settings or go to the dyno with you. which ever you want/afford. (they'll have an inhouse dyno no later than february by the way.)
i was never saying the headgasket could part the red sea, i only was showing people what it could do. theres alot of new people on here that aren't aware of other products on the market. i was just showing those products. you see, i was showing you facts. things i have done. you show me nothing. you say inline blew up all these motors. no one on here believes that. don't be a hater.
jinXman!! jj is here to help if you need any..
anyway your **** is the bomb! i can't wait to see your new set up.
hey do you have a spare trans. that you wanna sell?
anyway your **** is the bomb! i can't wait to see your new set up.
hey do you have a spare trans. that you wanna sell?
I have seen jinx's ar run in person adn that thing is off the hizzy...you can get great numbers out of a motor with the inline headgasket
by the way jinx u going to v street or 50 this saturday?
by the way jinx u going to v street or 50 this saturday?
Ok, I'm done arguing here, we're not gonna get anywhere. My question now is, why do you feel the urge to spread the gospel (damn these biblical allusions are fun) about Inline? Do you work for them? get a cut on the head gaskets they sell online? Why doesn't one of the shop "engineers" (yes that was sarcastic) come on and explain/defend the product?
As for your point about shops, I agree, you gotta pay to have even halfway decent work done on your car. I wouldn't reccomend even my enemies to bring their cars to most of the shops around the DC area. The only shop my car has been in since I bought it besides my garage is CDE for a little custom exhaust work, and I really did pay for it, but quality was excellent.
As for your point about shops, I agree, you gotta pay to have even halfway decent work done on your car. I wouldn't reccomend even my enemies to bring their cars to most of the shops around the DC area. The only shop my car has been in since I bought it besides my garage is CDE for a little custom exhaust work, and I really did pay for it, but quality was excellent.
1. He had a 54 trim t3/t4 btw, a smaller turbo than yours.
2. Since when does 1/4 mile solely dictate whether your car's fast or not? You said, "if your making 300 hsp @ 1 bar and i'm making 350 @ 2 bars, i'm going faster. period......nuff said." I thought you said hp and dynos don't matter?
3. His car has been running for almost a year now with his new motor and he pushes a bar daily on pump gas. I guess you drive around everywhere w/ race gas pushing 22+psi. I'd hate to be paying your gas bill...
4. Again, 380 whp is nice, but it's not daily driven at that much boost. There's your reason WHY these motors hold together.. You push out only 300whp max on the street, and then once in a while you up the boost w/ race gas.
5. **** happens. Sometimes accidents happens, motor blow for different reasons.
My main point from the beginning is that the inline headgasket isn't a bad product, but it's hardly a substitute for a built motor.
-Mike
2. Since when does 1/4 mile solely dictate whether your car's fast or not? You said, "if your making 300 hsp @ 1 bar and i'm making 350 @ 2 bars, i'm going faster. period......nuff said." I thought you said hp and dynos don't matter?
3. His car has been running for almost a year now with his new motor and he pushes a bar daily on pump gas. I guess you drive around everywhere w/ race gas pushing 22+psi. I'd hate to be paying your gas bill...
4. Again, 380 whp is nice, but it's not daily driven at that much boost. There's your reason WHY these motors hold together.. You push out only 300whp max on the street, and then once in a while you up the boost w/ race gas.
5. **** happens. Sometimes accidents happens, motor blow for different reasons.
My main point from the beginning is that the inline headgasket isn't a bad product, but it's hardly a substitute for a built motor.
-Mike
I am with ya there SlowTeg. If I want to run high boost at some point, and I probably will, I will get upgraded rods and lower CR pistons. That is going with the Hondata that I will already have. I shiver to think what it will be able to pull once the motor is built.
Just a few suggestions.. If you have someone build your motor, make SURE the person knows what he's doing and has a good reputation. I can't stress that enough. There are VERY few people around that can properly build a motor. The ONLY reason why people have problems with built motors is either shitty tuning or improper installation. Aftermarket sleeves are a complete waste of money and overkill for a street car. Good Luck!
-Mike
-Mike
It amazes me how far we get from reality with little more than theoretical opinions based on emotion and the need to be right.
if you got something good thats working spread the word. Some people just can't seem to stand seeing others excited about what's working for them. Kinda like if you got a parade they're gonna have to rain on it. WTF? I'm glad not to be one of them...they seem to be incredibly angry / uptight types.
THAT'S worth saying, although those who need to hear it won't...watch and see.
if you got something good thats working spread the word. Some people just can't seem to stand seeing others excited about what's working for them. Kinda like if you got a parade they're gonna have to rain on it. WTF? I'm glad not to be one of them...they seem to be incredibly angry / uptight types.
THAT'S worth saying, although those who need to hear it won't...watch and see.
So you will say that you WILL make 400hp with the headgasket on a turbo h22a without destroying the motor if equal or better mods are used then yours? Would you be willing to gurantee that on paper? I think saying "you will this" and "you will that" sounds a little general to me
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