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Old 04-18-2013, 08:16 AM
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Default Injector o-ring issue

Alright, I picked up some injectors, they have this on the side of them.



I was told these are Bosch style injectors, 310cc. I picked up an Edelbrock Pro Flo fuel rail that is specifically for OBD1 Bosch Style injectors.



But I am unsure of what o-rings to run. I was told the DSM kit should work, as you see in the picture, what o-ring should I run up top and on the bottom?? I tried to put the smaller in diameter one up top, in the rail, it makes it tight, but I am unsure if the seal is tight. As for the bottom, I have a JRSC, and the injectors dont fit thru the opening in the intake runners.





I am sure the injectors are supposed to slide past the bottom of the intake runner??

I havent taken anything apart yet, I just want to have all my issued worked out before I get to them. This injector problem has been worrying me since I got the injectors.

What should I do. Please help.
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Default Re: Injector o-ring issue

You have 11mm "Honda size" injectors and a "Bosch size" 14mm fuel rail.
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Default Re: Injector o-ring issue

Originally Posted by wantboost
Yes, as these people habe stated... its only for a style of injector.... almost every injector is modeled on Bosch's general design.. so if these are bigger than OEM Honda units then no matter what rail you use, it will have to be modified.

Part number you have is D1720B-01D034B
The injectors are 315cc Lucas injectors.. 12ohms, ev1 style connector. Split fountain discharge

And THEY ARE NOT FOR A HONDA RAIL. I just looked it up..

This is the part number you need.. D1720B-01D034-325B


You can clearly see the difference in the rail side of the injector, its been cut down to fit our smaller rails.
So what you have won't won't unless you have your existing rail modified. No shelf b/d/h series rail will fit them.. or sell them and take it as lesson learned
I was told the injectors I have are the larger Bosch style....so I am going to need to either get new injectors or run OE fuel rail?? I'd rather keep the injectors, and use the stock rail.
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Default Re: Injector o-ring issue

Im surprised you havent test fitted them in the stock rail yet.
Yes either change rails or injectors.
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Default Re: Injector o-ring issue

My stock rail is on my DD. I am gunshy to start taking stuff apart and not have a car to drive.

So what injectors do I NEED to get to work in my Bosch style fuel rail?

Muckman, I appreciate your input, thanks again!!!
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Default Re: Injector o-ring issue

You need an Bosch style injector to fit your Bosch style rail.

Something in an EV14 body. Like these. Notice the adapter top hat converts between 14mm and 11mm.
http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/ev14-...b-series-honda
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Default Re: Injector o-ring issue

Sweet thanks. So the injectors I have, are NOT Bosch style like Google'n the part number says. Guess I am going to have to pull my rail and test fit these injectors. Budget JRSC built. lol
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Default Re: Injector o-ring issue

they are bosch style, you have the wrong part number, look at my quoted post above. you'll see the part number you need

different part numbers have different diameter rail ends and manifold ends, the actual working parts of the injector are the same size and they all share they same overall body size (the big part)

injectors are universal to a point, assuming you have the right diameter rail and such

what you have wont work unless you bore out the rail as well as the intake manifold where the injector passes through
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Default Re: Injector o-ring issue

Originally Posted by wantboost
they are bosch style, you have the wrong part number, look at my quoted post above. you'll see the part number you need

different part numbers have different diameter rail ends and manifold ends, the actual working parts of the injector are the same size and they all share they same overall body size (the big part)

injectors are universal to a point, assuming you have the right diameter rail and such

what you have wont work unless you bore out the rail as well as the intake manifold where the injector passes through
I finally understand what you said in the quoted post, and I am sorry for not listening then, ugh. Being thickskulled I seen the numbers were the same on the injectors I have at my desk and the ones in the picture.

Well guess my 310cc's are up for sale. I need the correct ones for my JRSC/Edelbrock fuel rail. The larger inlet, smaller outlet ones, correct???
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Default Re: Injector o-ring issue

Also, could someone please let me know what the injectors I have fit? I need to sell them ASAP.
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Default Re: Injector o-ring issue

Originally Posted by EFSedan#6
Also, could someone please let me know what the injectors I have fit? I need to sell them ASAP.
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Default Re: Injector o-ring issue

Can I run these??

http://injector-rehab.com/shop/EV14-...aptor-Hat.html

Edit, they wont work, the bottom of the injector is still incorrect. FML
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Default Re: Injector o-ring issue

Originally Posted by EFSedan#6
Also, could someone please let me know what the injectors I have fit? I need to sell them ASAP.
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Default Re: Injector o-ring issue

So I have someone that wants to sell me a set of EV14's.



Similar to the bottom injector, only 14mm up top for my rail. Wantboost....correct?? I cant afford to have another **** up.
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Default Re: Injector o-ring issue

Lets start with what car/fuel rail they came out of? Have them measure the OD of the top Oring should be a little larger than the ports of your fuel rail around 15mm.
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Default Re: Injector o-ring issue

They are new EV14's, much like what Wantboost posted from fiveomotorsports. 14mm tops and Honda size at the outlet. The seller is going to send me pics of the injector in a rail/jrsc manifold. HiProfile is his SN on here.
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Default Re: Injector o-ring issue

That fuel rail should show about 13.5-13.9mm ID. The o-rings on "14mm" injectors is a bit over 14mm. That picture is the 14mm injectors I turn down to Honda-size 11mm.

I've already had people run them in OEM 14mm rails for GM's, Fords, K20's, and a custom Mazda motor, so they will fit as well as any other 14mm injector will. They will look like longer Injector Dynamics injectors w/o the tophats.
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Default Re: Injector o-ring issue

I had the same problem and I'm using some super fat o-rings and it works fine. I'm pretty sure I'm using rsx o-rings.
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Default Re: Injector o-ring issue

Well if these 14mm EV14 370cc's will work, it is what I should go with, correct??? The injectors I have now, the ones posted above, do not fit thru the inlet opening on the JRSC.
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Default Re: Injector o-ring issue

This is the injector style that you need for a 14mm Honda fuel rail (Ford rail for reference):




This is how they fit in a JRSC manifold (cut down to 11mm):






This is the O.D. of the top 14mm o-ring (~14.5mm), and the electrical adapter needed for an OBD1 or OBD0 harness:

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Thank you!!
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