bigdaddyvtec

Called ARP no luck, can anyone help me out??? ... Im boosting 10 psi and blowing coolant into my resevoir, but no oil in water or water in my oil. This ONLY happens when I really beat the car. I know one solution is not to beat the car... but id rather take care of the problem... and go to 13 psi.

Think my bolts are stretched/stretching... Is re torqueing them an option.. or do i have to change bolts/studs????

Need help/ Part number

THANKS guys!!!!




Modified by bigdaddyvtec at 10:10 PM 2/28/2006


Modified by bigdaddyvtec at 11:12 PM 2/28/2006

bigdaddyvtec

I bump myself....


ya thats right....

want to go to 13 psi...Please help!!!!

bigdaddyvtec

midnight nyquil bump

stinker504

I know the F23 guys use the H23 ARP studs. See if the F studs are swappable.

FastechAccord

The H23 and F22 head bolts are the same from honda. I used the ARP H23 head studs in my build up and didnt have any problems.

notoriousB

^^^ H23 ARP head studs for teh w1n!

dennis

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EvoAccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I used the ARP H23 head studs in my build up and didnt have any problems. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Same here. I recommend Lightning Motorsports. I can't guarantee f22b1's are the same as f22b2's though (I'm using an f22b2).

bigdaddyvtec

Yo B- do you know for a fact that they will work ewith the b1??? Youve been here with my little turbo project since day 1 of its conception, so PLEASE, do tell!!!

Thanks man

Anybody know that i can use the h23 studs on a f22b1 for certain...also, what kind of head gasket should i run????? OEM???? I also saw one on f22parts.com. Any other suggestions????

Thanks again guys!!!!

notoriousB

I can't guarantee it but I would give it an 98% chance of working in my personal opinion.

I know for a fact that it will work on an F23Ax, we have dennis' testimonial to the F22B2, and the F-series heads are all pretty much interchangeable. I say you'd be all set.

Headgasket I stick with OEM with copper spray, that with the ARP studs and I haven't had any head gasket problems at all.

bigdaddyvtec

I turned DOWN boost to 8.5-9 psi and beat the car all the way to work....no cooplant spittle , (its amazing what jusat that 9-10.5 psi jump does for the *** dyno) im assuming headstuds, and a new oem gasket + good tune should render 13-14psi safe with all stock internals????

comp is 180-175-175-178.......cant remember what order...

Motor seems to be liking it!!!

dennis

I've been running copper spray coated stock with no problem. On my second. (had to pull the head 1 time). last time I checked, f22parts was a rip. I just order OEM parts from http://slhonda.com and http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/

I'll try to hit my buddy up when he gets online. he has an f22b1

bigdaddyvtec

Thanks for all your help guys...and yes f22parts is a f ing ripoff.... 200 for headstud kit, bitch please!!!!


So i should be golden running 13 psi if i tune conservative yes????

notoriousB

it's all in the tune. eventually the stock pistons will likely give up, the harder/further you push it the faster it will die. but you'll have a smile on your face until then!

bigdaddyvtec

Ya i was planning on building a block before this summer with rods and pistons....and upgrade to 750 cc injectors (go for higher boost)

For now- Just wanted to run 10- 13 psi till then. i got 260 whp 270 tq @ 10 psi on a conservative tune (like 12.6 a/f - i think) ...figured i could get close to 300 with 13 psi, just for the weekends, and run 10 during the week.... ran a 13.90 so far with EVERYTHING in the car (@10 psi w/subs, spare....etc.)

**** if im gonna do the head gasket and studs anyway..... i gues i could just pull the pan and drop rods and forged pistons in this block huh....


Im starting to wonder if this whole coolant spitting thing may just be a funky thermostat...

notoriousB

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bigdaddyvtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> a conservative tune (like 12.6 a/f - i think) </TD></TR></TABLE>
yikes I'd consider that too lean man, have that dropped to 11.5:1 or so.

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you could but honing the cylinders w/ the crank still in place I would not do personally, as you'll never get all the little metal shavings out of the block. I say pull it out and do it fully once but to each their own.

I absolutely HATE being under the car w/ the oil pan off, the constant oil dripping on my head drives me insane. I can't imagine trying to torque bolts, etc. under there w/ the drippage. My hair is on end right now just thinking about it. LOL

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bigdaddyvtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im starting to wonder if this whole coolant spitting thing may just be a funky thermostat...</TD></TR></TABLE>
if coolant is being ejected out of your overflow bottle I really don't think it's your thermostat - sounds like head lift to me.

bigdaddyvtec

Ya im not gonna gop for the ghetto build... Just the studs and head gasket for now....+ retune, I was just thinking out loud....

But seriously, ima go look at my dyno sheet to check the AFs...I thought that 12.6 was the lean point of the tune, now ya got me wanting to check aGAIN.

Ya im pretty sure that the head is lifting, i thought i actually remembereds one of you guys mentioning it before to someone else, thats why i posted. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE HELP!!!


Actually one more dumb question...... Studs, or bolts.... Pros/Cons???

notoriousB

studs: re-usable, much better clamping force and consistant torque readings when tightened
bolts: use once and toss out, less consistant torque when tightened

studs are the way to go.

dennis

(01:40:01 PM) Me: hey, did you put the h23 studs in your f22b1?
(01:40:57 PM) Pete: yah
(01:41:18 PM) Me: no problems?
(01:43:10 PM) Pete: nope fit like stock, get arp

bigdaddyvtec

Thanks for the help guys!!!! 13 psi here i come.....PSSSHHHHHHT lookin for 13.50s


Just ordered the ARP head stud kit and head gasket!!!!



Modified by bigdaddyvtec at 2:29 PM 3/1/2006

PrecisionH23a

Any of you guys know the torque for the stock f23a1 head bolts?

stinker504

Two step 22 then 58.

bigdaddyvtec

So can I replace the studs for the stock bolts 1 by one without taking off the head????? that would be sweet!!!!!

notoriousB

your headgasket is already compromised, I would pull the head, have it checked & decked (if necessary) at a machine shop, and reinstall with a new gasket & studs.

PrecisionH23a

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stinker504 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Two step 22 then 58.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, I checked the helms today. First step 22 ftlbs. Second stage is 180 degree for used bolts and 270 deg for new bolts. TTY yo!