<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thegatekeeper14 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well that sucks i dunno if i wanna go with a bw turbo i like my garrett alot</TD></TR></TABLE>

then buy a GT3076R or a GT35R, you have options.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Nope...definitely not. The GT3251 is basically a trimmed down 57 trim. It was meant, as TheShodan stated, for quick spool and midrange power. I had another variant of it, the GT3255b, which is a little more geared toward the top end, but still a tad smaller than the 57trim. With the power it made on my setup at 10.5psi, i would have only guessed it to be capable of 435-445whp. Since your turbo is smaller, you will have a hard time breaking 415-425whp. What you need to do is snag a Borg Warner S256. That way you'll be set to make 500+whp. If you need more room, look into the S362. </TD></TR></TABLE>

or a 258 or a 259 actually i heard over on a dsm forum that they are calling the 258 a 259
are these the same or do they make 2 different turbos Shodan i know you would know

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thegatekeeper14 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well that sucks i dunno if i wanna go with a bw turbo i like my garrett alot</TD></TR></TABLE>
why?

 

There are a lot of other garrett alternatives as well without just going to a GT3076R (which has to be pushed) or a GT35R. People tend to not take into account the additional equipment and responsibility need to use the "R" series.

The GT3540E/S or even the GT66 Journal bearing turbochargers can work just as well, with a little less cost than some of the borg-warners if you're skiddish about it.

What is your budget that you plan to spend?

 

a gt66 that sound BIG is there info on it on garretts website i've never heard of it

don't worry im set on what im getting hehe

but i would like you to pm me about the $$$

 

id like to see 600whp

and keep my 3inch 4 bolt down pipe

and my nukin mani.

id like to keep my budget low. cheap as possiable

 

Borg Warner S362 hands down. It will make the power you need and is decently priced. It compares with the GT35R; however, the BW S362 is rebuildable while the GT35R is not...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Borg Warner S362 hands down. It will make the power you need and is decently priced. It compares with the GT35R; however, the BW S362 is rebuildable while the GT35R is not...</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats what im going with and if space is an issue or if you just want better transient response and quicker spool it can be had with a s200 compressor cover but if you do that then it will max out around where the 258 would maybe just a little bit more but not much

but my thinking is if i want more 300 is cheaaper to change to the s300 compressor cover and be capable of about 100 more whp than to have to buy a new turbo

 

how do you guys feel about the s362 vs the t3/67HO
both are t3....

 

Well just for an example, here's a comparison between the smaller S256 and the T67HO. If the S256 can make this much more power, just imagine what the dyno comparison for the S362 would look like...
http://www.bullseyepower.com/t...a.asp

Also, i know you're looking for 600whp. Here's dyno testing on a Calibra 2.0 16v. I'm going to assume that this engine will flow similar to what you have if not worse than your setup. Check out the power he's making and the spool on this beast!

http://www.bullseyepower.com/t...h.asp

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thegatekeeper14 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">id like to see 600whp

and keep my 3inch 4 bolt down pipe

and my nukin mani.

id like to keep my budget low. cheap as possiable
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So your saying you want a stock sleeved 600whp car, and want to keep the budget low? Please let me in on how you do this

 

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So your saying you want a stock sleeved 600whp car, and want to keep the budget low? Please let me in on how you do this </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thegatekeeper14 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the block is aebs sleeved </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

damn those guys are making amazing TQ i dont think my 6puck sprung will handle that lol

 

Yeah that Calibra is making some good TQ. If you convert it, 705.2 Nm = 520 ft/lbs of torque. I dont know the specs on that engine so its not necessarily a direct comparison. It does show you that you will be making some serious torque though. Which clutch do you have?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheShodan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There are a lot of other garrett alternatives as well without just going to a GT3076R (which has to be pushed) or a GT35R. People tend to not take into account the additional equipment and responsibility need to use the "R" series.

The GT3540E/S or even the GT66 Journal bearing turbochargers can work just as well, with a little less cost than some of the borg-warners if you're skiddish about it.

What is your budget that you plan to spend?</TD></TR></TABLE>

the 3076r can make 500whp easy on a honda, i've personally seen 550whp with a .82 housing on a 2.0 i did't suggest the journal bearing garretts because despite popular belief i am not a Garrett fanboy and believe if your gonna stay journal bearing BW is the best option and the OP seems to not want that.

and about the additional equipment, i think we are all familliar with that, if anybody is not familiar with the parts needed to run there particular turbo properly they should not be turbocharging there car, thats just my honest opinion, the only dual ball bearing turbo i have seen that does not use water lines is the IHI sealed ball bearing turbo's but i you'd need a custom manifold with there flange to run one...

 

since your a garrett fanboy but don't want to pay for BB you may want to talk to precision out there non BB optiuns including soe of their newer stuff with billett wheels

 

are you talking to blinxxx because he said he's NOT a garrett fan boy

 

what about the t3/67ho?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thegatekeeper14 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about the t3/67ho?</TD></TR></TABLE>

its a LAZY **** of a turbo. get a BW S258 and kill it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blinx9900 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

the 3076r can make 500whp easy on a honda, i've personally seen 550whp with a .82 housing on a 2.0 i did't suggest the journal bearing garretts because despite popular belief i am not a Garrett fanboy and believe if your gonna stay journal bearing BW is the best option and the OP seems to not want that.

and about the additional equipment, i think we are all familliar with that, if anybody is not familiar with the parts needed to run there particular turbo properly they should not be turbocharging there car, thats just my honest opinion, the only dual ball bearing turbo i have seen that does not use water lines is the IHI sealed ball bearing turbo's but i you'd need a custom manifold with there flange to run one...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Interesting point, but you're still forgetting about his BUDGET concerns, as well as the responsibility. Yes, many OTHERS may understand about the additional equipment needed, but the OP may not. It can't be assumed that because he is inquiring about a particular turbo that he knows all of the components and responsibilities that are attached to it. Look to the OP's needs AS WELL as the turbocharger that you believe would be right for him.

 

im allso looking at this link here what do you guys think of some of these turbos here.

https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1

im looking into as sc61 how about those? compared to the 67ho?

 

^^ There are PLENTY of threads regarding these two turbos. When you search (little red word on the upper right) make sure that you check the "archived content" when you put in keywords SC61 and T67. There are some several years old.

 

i think im going to so with th t3/t67 with th .63 setup