I thought that was only with the wet kit. but doesnt both just add on to the comnbustion process . like when it goes boom it will just increase the effect of the boom to KABOOM!

 

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the flammable part in the combustion chamber is the fuel, and the spark ignites it. But a fire cannot burn without oxygen, thats where the nitrous comes in. So alone n2o isn't flammable.</TD></TR></TABLE>

he's right.... thats why its considered FI, its does the same thing a Turbo or Sc does and the air coming out of those aren't flammable by themselves. Except with a Turbo or SC you won't run out off power when a bottle hits empty.

 

With the zex kit you can mount the brain to the underside of the battery tray and run the line(s) into the bottom of a CAI.

-Dustin

 

Cover all of the SS line in vaccum tubing or wire loom. You can mount the solenoids under the rain tray or in the bumper.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSRwBOOST &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get a big subwoofer box... a light one if you can find it... put it in the box in the trunk and put just the front of the woofer on..

that should be sufficient...

with mine.. i just put a few things in the trunk.. and tossed a jacket over the top...

not that it will stop the cops from lifting the jacket... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey that was my idea!

 

ok let me get this straight. If i took a nitrous bottle and turned the nozzle all way and put a match to it, nothing would happen?

I mean its mostly oxygen, so wouldn't that make it feed that fire bigger, like an oxygen tank exploding.

I'm just confused on how N20 is not flamable.

 

well first off the nitrous would blow the match out b/c of the force.

You need 3 things for a fire to happen. Spark, Fuel, Oxygen

if you don't have one of these OR you don't have enough of one or too much in some cases... It can't happen.

In this case you have the spark (match) and the "fuel" (wood of match) and you have the ambient air (oxygen).

Now when you open the bottle you are giving it too much oxygen and not enough fuel... so it goes out.

Imagine how an engine work at idle too rich and it dies...too lean it dies.

 

Ok quick chem lesson children......... when something combusts the ONLY TWO PORDUCTS are A CARBON COMPOUND (usually CO2, but in certain cases something else., but we won't go there) AND PLAIN OLD WATER!!!!!!, so no N2O is not combustable, however the reason I said not to put it in the engine bay is that if he were ever hit in the front, and that bottle exploded with all other fuel and electronics.... then kaboom your fire just got alot bigger

 

okay okay.....no more of this it is flameable and its not this is how it work !
read carefully if you don't already know, not trying to be a dick or a smart *** here just wanted to get it cleared up for those who are curious :
Nitrous oxide is an oxygen bearing compound. Its chemical designator is N2O, so we know each nitrous oxygen molecule has two nitrogen atoms and one oxygen atom. Nitrous oxide is sometimes incorrectly known as "NOS". That is an acronym for the company, Nitrous Oxide Systems.
Nitrous oxide is a colorless, non-flammable gas.
A property of nitrous oxide is that at about 565 degrees F., it breaks down into nitrogen and oxygen. When it is introduced into the intake tract of an internal combustion engine, it is sucked into the combustion chamber and, on the compression stroke, when the charge air temperature reachs 565 deg., a very oxygen-rich mixture results. If we add extra fuel during nitrous oxide injection, the effect is like a super charger or increasing the compression ratio of the engine.
Nitrous has 36% oxygen by weight and the atmosphere has 23%. Additionally, nitrous oxide is 50% more dense than air at the same pressure. Thus, a cubic foot of nitrous oxide contains 2.3 times as much oxygen as a cubic foot of air. Just do a bit of math in your head and you can see if we substitute some nitrous oxide for some of the air going into an engine than add the appropriate amount of additional fuel, the engine is going to put out more power.

Well there you go that is how it works folks, and if you inhale it in small quantities it make you laught too .......see...*inhale* *laughing*

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoolinlude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok quick chem lesson children......... when something combusts the ONLY TWO PORDUCTS are A CARBON COMPOUND (usually CO2, but in certain cases something else., but we won't go there) AND PLAIN OLD WATER!!!!!!, so no N2O is not combustable, however the reason I said not to put it in the engine bay is that if he were ever hit in the front, and that bottle exploded with all other fuel and electronics.... then kaboom your fire just got alot bigger</TD></TR></TABLE>

yup, also if it was in the engine bay the bottle pressure would heat up so much it would exceed the rating for the bottle and boom!

 

Say what you will....it's designated a non-flammable gas. I don't know why everybody had to add all their comments, what I said was correct.

 

lol b/c some people still don't understand why its non-flammable.

 

Depending on the motor, a very sneaky way to hide nozzles and solenoids is to dirct port the nozzles into the under side of the intake manifold. This really only works with V type engines. In a classic v8 chev there is a space between the bottom of the intake and the lifter valley. There is enough space here to fit the nozzles and the solenoids. remove intake, drill holes for nozzles , bend up tubes for nozzle to solenoids, attach everything to underside of intake, install intake. Then all you have to due is wrap you're fuel and n2o feed lines in something inconspicuous and connect to the two lines sticking out of the back of the intake. I was also looking at the spark plug cover of my honda and wondering if the nozzles from a dry kit would fit under there. You just have to be creative, scuff up some of the lines to make them look ike fuel return lines or something.

 

Yes, and actually with the sneaky pete the bottle can be mounted in the oil galley of a small block (pushrod) v8...

 

any more the easiest way to hide nitrous (especially on a honda) would be to use the fogger nozzles and put them in the bottom of the inatke (opposite of the injectors). run all your pluming for the kit (find a way to hide it). here is the neat part: have two bottles one for the actual nitrous system (hidden under the dash or something with remote opener) and a "fake" one sitting out in the open. when someone wants to race, tell them that you will unhook the "obvious" bottle and when u do it will make the hissing sound and then u can still race with the nitrous

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rb08 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any more the easiest way to hide nitrous (especially on a honda) would be to use the fogger nozzles and put them in the bottom of the inatke (opposite of the injectors). run all your pluming for the kit (find a way to hide it). here is the neat part: have two bottles one for the actual nitrous system (hidden under the dash or something with remote opener) and a "fake" one sitting out in the open. when someone wants to race, tell them that you will unhook the "obvious" bottle and when u do it will make the hissing sound and then u can still race with the nitrous</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you use the two bottle method, what's the point of hiding the nozzle, solenoids, etc?

 

LOL, this made me remember years ago on speedvision, some car had
"a mysterious oilpan explosion".

 

just curiuos why ppl wanna hide it so bad, i mean whats the point, if you beat someone and you say you aint got it, to me thats cheatin. If i know you have nitrous i will still race you, but at least if i know u got it i can kinda figure out y u won. I'm not against nitrous or making it look all nice and neat for the install but whats the oint of purposly hiding it, only reason i can think of is cops. I not illegal at the track as long as it meet there standards and if it doesnt and they dont find out till later you'll be kick out! seen it done ......like to hear ppls opinions on this one.