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Old 04-02-2003, 02:56 PM
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i have a 2000 ITR. it has a Hondata S200 with Hondata OBDII plugged P28 ECU. it also has a J&S Ultra Safeguard V1 installed. the tachometer does not work. it is my understanding that i need to splice 2 wires from the ecu together to get the tach to work? it was my understanding that i use A19 (solid blue) and B13 (yellow / green stripe) from the ecu and splice them together. if i splice them toigether with the B13 input from before the J&S the car will not start. if i use the B13 after it comes from the J&S the car runs fu\ine, but no tach. any suggestions??




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Default Re: how to get tach to work w/ Hondata S200 &P28 & J&S ultra in ITR?? (vactor)

I'm running an s200 and a original safeguard on my ITR and never had any problems. Perhaps you used the wiring diagram for a 97 or 98 Itr instead of the 00-01. If so this may be your problem.
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u used the same A19 and B13 splice trick? it worked for you? ...
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Default Re: how to get tach to work w/ Hondata S200 &P28 & J&S ultra in ITR?? (Spunkster)

97-98 doesnt use the NEP wire
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ttt. i know there must be some 2000+ itr users with hondata and J&S ...
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ttt. any help on this?
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a little help?
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still in need of help here.
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Default Re: how to get tach to work w/ Hondata S200 &P28 & J&S ultra in ITR?? (vactor)


You need a 1K ohm 1/4 watt resistor between the red and green wires on the J&S harness (where it connects to the Safeguard).

That's how I fixed the tach on my setup after using a P28/Hondata with the J&S. That suggestion come from John @ J&S and it works like a champ.

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Default Re: how to get tach to work w/ Hondata S200 &P28 & J&S ultra in ITR?? (Sonny)

thanks sonny. gonna go to rat shack, get a resistor and see if it works!!
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Default Re: how to get tach to work w/ Hondata S200 &P28 & J&S ultra in ITR?? (Sonny)

tired it. tach jumped once on startup, but nothing else. any other ideas?
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Default Re: how to get tach to work w/ Hondata S200 &P28 & J&S ultra in ITR?? (vactor)

If you take the J&S out of the picture, does the tach come back?

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Default Re: how to get tach to work w/ Hondata S200 &P28 & J&S ultra in ITR?? (Sonny)

well, if i plug he stock ecu back in the tach works just fine.
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Default Re: how to get tach to work w/ Hondata S200 &P28 & J&S ultra in ITR?? (vactor)

Where is the J&S tapped into? The factory wiring harness?

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Default Re: how to get tach to work w/ Hondata S200 &P28 & J&S ultra in ITR?? (Sonny)

yeah, it is tapped into the factory harness near the kick panel. now i did check the resistor, and it is only 990 ohms. but it seems unlikely that the 10 ohm deficit would cause any hardship. the strange thing is that the resistor trick works for a second while the car starts, and then stops. ...
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Default Re: how to get tach to work w/ Hondata S200 &P28 & J&S ultra in ITR?? (vactor)

seems i need more current. but i am not sure. anyone else?
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Default Re: how to get tach to work w/ Hondata S200 &P28 & J&S ultra in ITR?? (vactor)

up up and away
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Default Re: how to get tach to work w/ Hondata S200 &P28 & J&S ultra in ITR?? (vactor)

Splice the factory NEP wire into your ICM wire. Then run a jumper wire from the ICM wire, add a 1K ohm resistor inline, then to the IGP1 wire.

If you need wire colors and pin #'s, e-mail me.

Sounds like you bought an inferior OBD2->OBD1 conversion harness.
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Default Re: how to get tach to work w/ Hondata S200 &P28 & J&S ultra in ITR?? (boomslang)

no harness for me. this is the P28 ECu with OBDII plugs straight frm hondata!! thanks, i will give it a try!!
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Default Re: how to get tach to work w/ Hondata S200 &P28 & J&S ultra in ITR?? (boomslang)

well, this worked a bit better as the tach worked for about 2 seconds. better than before. this is getting hiughly annoying. i doublechecked the wiring, and everything is as indicated ...
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Default Re: how to get tach to work w/ Hondata S200 &P28 & J&S ultra in ITR?? (vactor)

Bypass the Safeguard by unplugging the green connector harness from the Safeguard itself. Then run a jumper wire from the white to green wires (ICM in/ICM out) in the safeguard's connector. The other wires (power, ground, VTEC solenoid, etc) are just tapped into the wiring, so those can be left alone.

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Default Re: how to get tach to work w/ Hondata S200 &P28 & J&S ultra in ITR?? (vactor)

If you remove the Safeguard completly form the loop, does everything work fine? If so you should contact J&S.

On my 98 ITR I can bypass the J&S completly with just 2 wires, the ignition ouput to the ditrubutor. This takes about 30 seconds to change.


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Default Re: how to get tach to work w/ Hondata S200 &P28 & J&S ultra in ITR?? (Sonny)

yup. with the gren jumpered to white of J&S and otherwise unplugged (i.e. disconnecting J&S and connecting the cut ICM wire), works perfectly. also workes perfectly with the stock ecu (and J&S installed).
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Default Re: how to get tach to work w/ Hondata S200 &P28 & J&S ultra in ITR?? (vactor)

Time to call John at J&S
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