i'm sure many of you are familiar with turboedit, or have at least heard of it. if you dont know what it is, its basically the OBD-0 version of uberdata. my current setup consists of a superchaged B16A with a PR3 ECU and fuel controlled by an SMC+ and 450cc injectors. the only thing is that i'm not completely happy with my fuel curve that the SMC provides. as you all know, any hack method like this has its limits. so you're probably asking why not switch to turboedit? well, because the support for a PR3 on turboedit is limited. all you can do is adjust the fuel and timing for non boost situations (in other words, it would work great for NA but thats about all). however, i was wondering if it would work to have a SMC/turboedit combo. basically i would tune the SMC to the best of its ability, then use turboedit to fix the inaccuracies of the SMC. technically, turboedit would only see non-boost MAP voltages, so i'm pretty sure this would work. am i missing anything here? correct me if i'm wrong, but arent there people out there that run uberdata and a VAFC? of course this is kind of pointless, at least in my opinion, but hopefully you understand why my situation is different. i specifically have my eye on the autotune feature that is on its way anyways i'd appreciate any and all input any of you can provide. i'd hate to waste my time setting all of this up and have it not work or not benefit me in the end. and do not say go hondata. i refuse to pay those prices.

THANKS!

 

I ran the VAFC hack and now i have uberdata. It's not running correctly so i'm not sure if' they're compatible or not

 

what kind of problems are occuring?

thanks

 

Just a thought, but doesn't PM6 support boost now? And doesn't PM6 also support 1-wire VTEC conversion? So put those two together and you have a PM6 that you could import all your B16 maps into, run VTEC and boost w/o the SMC at all. I may be off on this but I think I'm right. Plus I think the PM6 also has launch control as well... I don't pay much attention to OBD0 stuff anymore.

Personally I just shelled out for the OBDI conversion and Uberdata.

 

its my understanding that this setup is still under development....they are waiting on something or someone - i forget exactly. but yes, this would be my preferred way of doing it, but until then....

thanks though and i'll double check the situation on this to be sure

 

Check out the Development section on pgmfi.org. I'm seeing people using the PS9 ECU from OBD0 auto tranny LXs to use VTEC with boost, and something about converting a PM6 to PS9 specs.

 

I would just switch to OBDI and get uberdata......it sounds like trying to run turbo edit with an afc is just another bandaid fix.

 

i'm afraid converting to OBD1 is more work and money than i want to spend. if thats the case i'll settle for my SMC setup. thanks raene i'll look into what you mentioned

 

Oh, I don't know; you could do a conversion for... $100 CDN for auto P28 ECU, $30 for soldering supplies for socketing the ECU, $150 CDN for a used distributor (OBDI or OBDII), and $200 CDN for a conversion harness - or you could make your own for $50 (like I did). That's a total of $320 if you do it "on the cheap" and disable the O2 heater code using Uberdata... again, that's what I did

 

do you happen to know how my setup would be configured if i went obd-1 or if i used a PM6 ecu on my B16A? i'm wondering because of the two o2 sensors. would i just have to weld on a bung thats further downstream so that one sensor sees all four cylinders?

 

OBDI only requires the primary O2 sensor. You're thinking of OBDII I just left both O2 sensors in the header and ran only the primary 1-wire O2 to the P28.

With Uberdata converting to OBDI is as simple as

a) Buying distrib, conversion harness, ECU, and socketing supplies;
b) Installing distrib, conversion harness, and ECU,
c) Disabling O2 heater check and whatever other options for your ECU,
d) Start car and drive!

 

i'm confused though because keep in mind, my first gen OBD0 B16A has two o2 sensors.

 

I have the same engine as you. One of the O2s is not hooked up to anything anymore

 

I have to agree about changing to a more supported obd1 ecu... like the p28, p30, etc.

then use crome or überdata to build a basemap.... tune from there.

maybe also look through pgmfi and register once you read the required reading http://www.pgmfi.org/phorum/re...&t=26

 

hmmm.....i'll have to give it some thought about converting to OBD1 since you're all talking it up so much i'll read up and see how much work it really is. thanks for all the replies

 

No problem, feel free to ask if you have any other questions I just went through the same thing as you, remember And the only thing I'd've done differently is to get a conversion harness rather than hand-soldering every single freaking connection!