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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 09:51 PM
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Default How big of a shot would be safe?

the setup:
d16z6 Greddy Turbo 13-15 psi(haven't decided)
Dsm 450cc injectors
s-afc hack
Ross 9.4:1 comp pistons
Eagle rods
Walbro intank fuel pump

I want to run nitrous with it also but i want to do a 75 shot but i dunno if it would be ok with stock sleeves what do you think? or should i just do a 50 shot?

my goals are(on drag radials): mid to high 13's without the nitrous but 12's with the nitrous.

any opinions good or bad will be useful.
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 11:06 PM
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Default Re: How big of a shot would be safe? (KoRE)

@ 13-15psi you should be able to hit high 12's w/o N2O if your a good driver, n20 might even put you in the high 11's
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 12:57 AM
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Default Re: How big of a shot would be safe? (RicerRacing69)

On a stock sleeve, you're pushing it running 13-15lbs of boost plus nitrous. Your best bet is to use a dry kit to cool the intake charge, maybe run just a 25 shot. A 25 shot on a turbo/sc motor has seen results of 50+ whp just for cooling the charge. If you want to run a decent shot plus that much boost, you'll need to get that block resleeved.

Hey RicerRacing69....what was your setup on the juiced LS for that 14.18? That's a good time for a 55 shot


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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 09:53 AM
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Default Re: How big of a shot would be safe? (dubster99)

what kits can shoot that low? zex only goes down to 55 and nx and nos i thoguht the lowest were 50...

should i just look into a sneaky pete kit? and just buy a bigger bottle?

i need more info and more opinions....
thanks for the help
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 09:57 AM
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Default Re: How big of a shot would be safe? (KoRE)

i bet if you call zex they can get you the right nozzel for you set up. not many people spray 25hp shot
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 10:03 AM
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Default Re: How big of a shot would be safe? (KoRE)

yeah your gonna want to sleeve the block with that much abuse. i would also go with what everyone is saying and do the 25 shot to cool it down. it does work.
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 10:03 AM
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well covert do you think i would be fine with a 50 shot? i might even just get a direct port kit if this guy is willing to trade.....

i'll call up the companies to see what's the lowest shot...

or do you think i should just buy a sneaky pete kit?
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 10:08 AM
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Default Re: How big of a shot would be safe? (KoRE)

it is a hard call. personally i would just buy the kit if it is a good deal. but how fast is your car already. most of the guys on this site are not even on the bottle. even with my t3/t4 i have a quick *** spool. i would wait to see how your car does as is.
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 10:11 AM
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hmmm ok after the rebuild and everything and it's all broken in i'll take it to the track and see how close i am to my goal.....but i still want to run the nitrous....

i don't want thenitrous to spool it up faster cause my greddy turbo spools up like nothing... i just want it for the extra power.

thanx for the help btw
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 11:25 AM
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Default Re: How big of a shot would be safe? (dubster99)

Hey RicerRacing69....what was your setup on the juiced LS for that 14.18? That's a good time for a 55 shot
I have Skunk 2 modified for LS Intake man, 5 angle port and polish, custom bored TB, Pulleys, cam gears, I/H/E, and a set of radials.
If you want a N2O system I have mine up for sale with bottle heater, blanket, and autometer bottle pressure gauge f/s with some custom made shot sizes i have bored. If you want a 25 shot, i can make you one, PM me if your interested.
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 04:14 PM
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Default Re: How big of a shot would be safe? (RicerRacing69)

Yes you can get jets for a smaller than 55 shot
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 07:22 PM
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Default Re: How big of a shot would be safe? (dubster99)

well i still don't understand why a wet kit would cool less then a a dry kit?

um also 50 is too much then?
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 08:32 PM
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Default Re: How big of a shot would be safe? (KoRE)

a wet kit is when you mix gas and nitrous into the intake charge, such as nitrous express or nos brand. a dry kit is just spraying nitrous into the intake charge, such as the zex kit. ive heard people get better results with a wet kit.
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 08:48 PM
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Getting the right size jets won't be a problem at all. You can order any size they make for NOS from jegs. And the smaller sizes are common because of direct port kits (since they would be using 4 nozzels each jet is smaller that just using one.
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 09:11 PM
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I knew what the diference was. i just don't get why people were telling me a dry would cool better.

so a wet kit would work better?

cause i don't want to lean out that's what i'm afraid of.
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 02:06 AM
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With a turbo setup, go dry.
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 06:32 AM
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Default Re: How big of a shot would be safe? (dubster99)

ok.... i'm gonna trust you lol
thanx for all the help...

now i need to find a dry kit
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 07:35 PM
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Default Re: How big of a shot would be safe? (KoRE)

For a small sized shot say 25-50 to cool the intake charge, dry is the setup to go with. If you are doing it for power, and want to go higher than that with a built motor, go direct port.
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 09:01 PM
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Default Re: How big of a shot would be safe? (dubster99)

well i really want it for power but while doin that cool the intake charge...but i think i'm just gonna stick with a 50 shot....

anyone got a NOS kit? im me.....
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Old Aug 18, 2002 | 01:15 AM
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Default Re: How big of a shot would be safe? (KoRE)

If you want it for cooling, use dry kit 25-50....I have seen 50 whp gains from a 25 shot just from cooling the intake charge.
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Old Aug 18, 2002 | 07:05 AM
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50 shot dry will do for you. Look for them on Ebay.
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Old Aug 18, 2002 | 07:46 AM
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yeah i'm trying to find one local if possible thoguh....but if it comes down to it ebay is the way to go

THanks for all the help.
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Old Aug 18, 2002 | 10:19 AM
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a shot of your mouth around my **** should do just fine
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Old Aug 18, 2002 | 11:43 AM
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dude thats gross.....

but here...enlarge this picture then print it out.... then you can have all the fun you want.
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Old Aug 18, 2002 | 02:18 PM
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hey my friend might be selling his direct port kit so i was wondering if the cooling efficiency is any less on that then on a dry kit....

thanx
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