Hondata Woes?
05-02-2003, 04:47 AM
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Hondata Woes?
About a year ago, I had a JRSC installed w/ the 8psi upgrade to my Si with hondata.
I made 231 whp.
I then went turbo, and sold my JRSC to my friend, also with an Si.
He finally recently got it put on his car. Keep in mind this is basically the SAME car. Same size injectors, same mods (CAI, Same style headers)..
He made 175 whp with the SAME setup. Thats 56 whp less! Any suggestions?
Needless to say, he is not very happy with the outcome...
Your input will be appreciated
I made 231 whp.
I then went turbo, and sold my JRSC to my friend, also with an Si.
He finally recently got it put on his car. Keep in mind this is basically the SAME car. Same size injectors, same mods (CAI, Same style headers)..
He made 175 whp with the SAME setup. Thats 56 whp less! Any suggestions?
Needless to say, he is not very happy with the outcome...
Your input will be appreciated
05-02-2003, 05:04 AM
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Re: Hondata Woes? (ekb18c)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ekb18c »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does your friend have hondata too?
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05-02-2003, 09:04 PM
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Re: Hondata Woes? (VaporTrail)
yes he has hondata s200 w/ boost option. There is no belt slippage. We cant figure it out..
What I had suggested was to get my old map from autothority (the place that dyno'd it) and have that map installed and take it to a tuner and have him fine tune it. it should pretty much then be the same thing, no?
What I had suggested was to get my old map from autothority (the place that dyno'd it) and have that map installed and take it to a tuner and have him fine tune it. it should pretty much then be the same thing, no?
05-02-2003, 09:38 PM
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Re: Hondata Woes? (Boosted2ksi)
175 hp on 8spi??
something is way wrong. you should be making more than that with the 6spi pulley on it.
hows the fuel pressure and who tuned it??? did you guys just put in your old maps or did he have to retuned on his car?
something is way wrong. you should be making more than that with the 6spi pulley on it.
hows the fuel pressure and who tuned it??? did you guys just put in your old maps or did he have to retuned on his car?
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05-03-2003, 07:30 AM
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Re: Hondata Woes? (TEAMGENDAI)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TEAMGENDAI »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no 2 cars are the same. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Exactly. He needs to get the car tuned for his setup.
Exactly. He needs to get the car tuned for his setup.
05-03-2003, 09:14 AM
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Re: Hondata Woes? (TEAMGENDAI)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TEAMGENDAI »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no 2 cars are the same</TD></TR></TABLE>
exactly. have your friend get his car tuned to HIS specs.
exactly. have your friend get his car tuned to HIS specs.
05-03-2003, 11:51 AM
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Re: Hondata Woes? (Mac8008)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mac8008 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">leakdown 
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and compression then find out
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05-03-2003, 12:14 PM
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There are many variables that need to be accounted for, and the Hondata system is probably last on the list.
Power is determined by several things (provided the engine is in good working condition).
Correct ignition timing
Correct air fuel ratio
Cam timing
Boost level
For example:
What is was the base ign timing on your car when tuned and verified by a timing light.
What is the timing on your friends car.
What is the difference in fuel pressure between your two vehicles? What is the difference in air fuel ratio when you dynoed.
Where are the cams timed at in both your cars?
What is the measured boost level in both your cars.
Get all those checked and verified, and only then look at retuning the Hondata system
Power is determined by several things (provided the engine is in good working condition).
Correct ignition timing
Correct air fuel ratio
Cam timing
Boost level
For example:
What is was the base ign timing on your car when tuned and verified by a timing light.
What is the timing on your friends car.
What is the difference in fuel pressure between your two vehicles? What is the difference in air fuel ratio when you dynoed.
Where are the cams timed at in both your cars?
What is the measured boost level in both your cars.
Get all those checked and verified, and only then look at retuning the Hondata system
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