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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 10:36 AM
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So some of you that followed my build know that I was tuned this past saturday. Well I went to the first meet with the car last night. Leaving there to go back to the shop, Pulling in my oil light came on. I work 9-5 at a marketing firm so I cant look at it untill tonight. But im running 600whp, rotellat 15-40, same **** Ive ran for years, fluidampr pully and acl extra clearance bearings and a Endyne oil pump, I really hope my facrory sensor took a ****. Im going to hook my autometer oil press gauge up when I get off.
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 10:37 AM
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what are your bearing clearances do you have a oil pressure gauge to check oil pressure? Don't drive the car!
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 11:04 AM
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Hope the best for ya man, sorry to hear all the issues
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 11:44 AM
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Hope the best for ya man, sorry to hear all the issues
I feel its karma, Ive built and bought and traded so many different cars and setups, that now I decide to see one through and every avenue I am getting fucked. Ill know for sure whats going on tonight.

what are your bearing clearances do you have a oil pressure gauge to check oil pressure? Don't drive the car!

My buddy at the shop is the one who assembled my bottom end. I am running extra clearance acl race bearings. The dyno I had no problem all day running the car, took it out and beat on it for a bit and then when I was pulling back into the shop oil light came on. Ive got an autometer oil press gauge. Ill finish wiring in tonight. Im really hoping that its just my factory sensor taking a ****.
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 12:03 PM
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Its done..... Just checked the oil pressure and its at 0, Im going to order an OEM ITR oil pump tonight.
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 12:14 PM
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Go OEM Nailor. Want a price?
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 12:40 PM
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my guess is that the pump could of broke/shattered.

hope it all goes well man.
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 12:46 PM
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Go OEM Nailor. Want a price?
Thanks Tim, Ill get that off y'all this week.
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 12:48 PM
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my guess is that the pump could of broke/shattered.

hope it all goes well man.
I dont know yet, Just know there is 0 pressure, I think its the fluidampr, Im going to switch to ATI Race, and a new ITR pump.
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 01:50 PM
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Fuidampr has worked without issue on many cars (including my last em1)

Pull the back cover of the pump and see what the gerotors look like

also, did the bottom end make any noise or was this an immediate shutdown after the light came on? Pull the pan and check for debris, also check the pickup for debris, if the pump ingested any metal you should see scoring marks and pock marks on the gears

I would be worried that there is bottom end damage and a new oil pump will only exacerbate the situation
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 03:36 PM
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I'd go through the motor and replace the bearings, but that's just me.
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 03:40 PM
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I will sell you a new looking GSR oil pump with literally 5k miles on it for $70 shipped.
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 03:42 PM
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that sucks man. i kinda know your pain. it seems like every 8months or so i have stock bottom end let go and the shitty part is mine are ALL stock and in NO way beat on. i do not race them, launch them MAYBE cross over 1 time a month.
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 03:44 PM
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ITR pump= 96+ b-series, they are all the same.
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 03:50 PM
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I once had a pressure relieve valve get stuck in open position bypassing oil filer and pressure switch kicking oil light to go on but it was a J-series engine
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 03:54 PM
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u should really pull the pan...its usually something more than an oil pump when you have an issue like that
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Moua
my guess is that the pump could of broke/shattered.

hope it all goes well man.

My guess is the same as well... I am running a TODA oil pump gear on my car + Fluidampr (street), and has been great for the past 7-8 years. I remember the first week I had my freshly built Dart block back in late '03/04, I shattered my brand new stock ITR oil pump gear after a few 4th gear pulls. Luckily, I had an oil pressure gauge with warning, and caught it really early.
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tepid1
I'd go through the motor and replace the bearings, but that's just me.
As would I, while the motor is down like that I would replace the main and rod bearings just to be sure none of them were damaged

it would really suck to get a new pump on and then immediately spin a bearing
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 12:00 AM
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It needs to be stripped down and thoroughly cleaned out regardless. Other wise he'll be back to the same point again.
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony the Tiger
My guess is the same as well... I am running a TODA oil pump gear on my car + Fluidampr (street), and has been great for the past 7-8 years. I remember the first week I had my freshly built Dart block back in late '03/04, I shattered my brand new stock ITR oil pump gear after a few 4th gear pulls. Luckily, I had an oil pressure gauge with warning, and caught it really early.
Wow! you must have caught it like right after or just leading-up to the event. Are you still running the Dart? I have one of their heads and am staging it for my current build.
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 12:55 AM
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The DART head will probably need a good cleaning of every fluid passage, the blocks were notorious for being filled with **** from the machining process
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 01:12 AM
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The DART head will probably need a good cleaning of every fluid passage, the blocks were notorious for being filled with **** from the machining process
thanks bro!
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 01:25 AM
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I wanna come by one day and see all this lol
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 01:36 AM
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I wanna come by one day and see all this lol
Would love a visit. Need to get moved first. Right now it's just a fluster-cluck collection of parts. Thankfully the rolling EJ shell's almost done. Gonna swing-by the shop after work today to get more photos to post (assuming no more rain this afternoon).
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 02:28 AM
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just PM when and where, I'd even be down to help on the cars, whatever you need, etc
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