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**** you *** hole...

I agree about the US "EDs" calling them selves "EFs" however.

The JimFab Crossmemeber does wonders for clearance btw. </TD></TR></TABLE>

About as common as the "EG Hatch"

 

Oh hey davis...BTW, how is the ITB code coming along?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nevin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">J. Davis is my most favorite person</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nevin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">J. Davis is my most favorite person</TD></TR></TABLE>me2.

 

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**** you *** hole... </TD></TR></TABLE>

You say the sweetest things to me. I swear, if you had red hair and succulent breasts, it would be on


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The JimFab Crossmemeber does wonders for clearance btw. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I ditched the stock crossmember a year back, and run a Del Slo dual core half width radiator. I repeat: there is no room to run charge pipe in a B-swapped ED chassis running HX35 except through the frame, unless you want to loop your pipe under the frame rail and have it visibly hang down and hit ****. edit: well, if your IC endtank doesn't come past the driver's side frame rail, you can run it straight forward if running a half or 2/3rd width radiator.

The pictures of Steven's setup above have the turbo mis-mounted. You cannot run the compressor on the passenger's side, it tries to occupy the last 1/4 of a half width radiator. Steven has since rotated the turbo the other direction, and everything's installed... dunno why the car isn't running yet, I haven't spoken to him in a week, been really busy + keeping odd hours.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BTW, how is the ITB code coming along?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's still an untested alpha Blundar came up with. I have to finish the head and figure out the rod situation... I'm trying to come up with press fit bushings to run the ZC pistons on LS rods, Crower either doesn't have them as previously claimed or doesn't care to return my phonecalls, and I really want to rev high and spray the engine just to make it nasty.

edit: oh, yeah, OBD1 ITB code is already in the works, my slack *** just has to ship a spare set of ITBs to OZ. I dunno if it will be freeware, though, the author is a secretive bastard. He might end up feeling generous; the ITBs are free and I'm considering shipping him a modified for ITBs B16 manifold just to endear him to me.

 

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You say the sweetest things to me. I swear, if you had red hair and succulent breasts, it would be on

It's still an untested alpha Blundar came up with. I have to finish the head and figure out the rod situation... I'm trying to come up with press fit bushings to run the ZC pistons on LS rods, Crower either doesn't have them as previously claimed or doesn't care to return my phonecalls, and I really want to rev high and spray the engine just to make it nasty.

edit: oh, yeah, OBD1 ITB code is already in the works, my slack *** just has to ship a spare set of ITBs to OZ. I dunno if it will be freeware, though, the author is a secretive bastard. He might end up feeling generous; the ITBs are free and I'm considering shipping him a modified for ITBs B16 manifold just to endear him to me. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Bhaha...lmfao.

The ITB setup with no2 would just kickass... I would do that, but I'm going to keep the setup as reliable/cost effective as possible.

As for the internals go, I will most likely just shoot peen the stock rods, run ZC pistons and keep the revlimit to 8k.

 

I'm reusing the stock pistons (yes, they can be pressed off the rods if you aren't an ignorant assmallet), I just want more power than D16 rods will support when combined with high revs. 8500 rpm NA, 8000 rpm with a 50-60 shot.

 

i've seen this turbo in person... it's out of control. It would take ABSOLUTELY forever to spool on any b or even h series engine (we're talking 6000-7000rpm here); hell it would take till 5500 to spool on a 2jz. if that's your cup of tea, then go for it. It would be completely undriveable on the street on anything less than a turbo diesel ford f250 crew cab (which it was designed for). hey don't mind me... just my 2 cents...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PreIudeSI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i've seen this turbo in person... it's out of control. It would take ABSOLUTELY forever to spool on any b or even h series engine (we're talking 6000-7000rpm here); hell it would take till 5500 to spool on a 2jz. if that's your cup of tea, then go for it. It would be completely undriveable on the street on anything less than a turbo diesel ford f250 crew cab (which it was designed for). hey don't mind me... just my 2 cents...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Strike one... the 12 cm^2 turbine found on the HX35W is roughly comparable to .55 AR, and on a GSR starts spooling in the 3500 rpm range with 8-10 psi by 4200 rpm.

Strike two... it was designed for the B5.9 Cummins diesel, not the Ford Powerstroke which got H3 compressored T4 in the early 90's, GTP38 until recently, and I dunno the designation of the latest unit used on the brand new ones.

Strike three... You may find that a turbo meant for a 6 liter engine that revs to 3000 rpms matches up well to a 3 liter engine that revs to 6000 rpm matches up well to a 1.8 of higher than normal VE and revlimit that requires a bit of lag (the definition of a Honduh).

You're out, welcome to the big leagues.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PreIudeSI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i've seen this turbo in person... it's out of control. It would take ABSOLUTELY forever to spool on any b or even h series engine (we're talking 6000-7000rpm here); hell it would take till 5500 to spool on a 2jz. if that's your cup of tea, then go for it. It would be completely undriveable on the street on anything less than a turbo diesel ford f250 crew cab (which it was designed for). hey don't mind me... just my 2 cents...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm normally totally opposed to being rude on forums but you sir have no clue what you are are talking about. Did you not read this post. I stated my spool times earlier. I drive my car with an hx35 on the street every day. The latest spool I get out of it is around 5k. Works wonders for what I was looking for out of a street turbo. If you don't know what you are talking about don't respond.

BTW, I am running this turbo with a POS log mani. I hope to get dyno numbers in a few weeks. I have pics but nowhere to host them at yet.

 

what flange is the holset hx35 t3?

 

its t3 flange divided

 

Mine is an older version and is not divided. Just a standard T3 flange.

 

are you sure you not running h1c insted of a hx35 they are very similar most all hx35 are divided housing

 

I guess its possible, but I doubt it since the source I got it from is very knowledgeable on Holset turbos.

You've raised my curiousity though in the case that it is an h1c. What can you tell me about that turbo?

 

Holset h1c is very similar wheel setup as the hx30 but it utilizes a 54/60 or 54/57 wheels combos They are used on teh 92-94 dodges very commons to the hx35.


h1c


h2c


and hx35

 

Thanks for offering to host the pics J. Davis, but I forgot they were already hosted on a friends site.

After looking at your pics I know that my turbo is for sure the hx35. It doesn't have the plate on it like those do, but the inlet is 4" and looks just like that inlet. It didn't before but I took off the piece that goes in there cause I heard it sounded cool when that was out and it does.

http://www.cavyjason.com/galle...x.htm

let me know what you guys think

 

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I think you need to take me for a ride in it.

 

man its real nice

 

Thanks for the comments guys. I thought it came out real nice for a first go around and the vband stuff I had for the downpipe made that so easy. I used the 72 degree bend from RRE and had an o2 housing with 2 bungs and vband on both sides. Downpipe was so easy that I didn't even have to cut anything, just got the bend welded to the flange. I'd be happy to take you for a ride if you are anywhere nearby. I'll be at the meet on the 2nd in Indiana.

 

J. Davis

Are you running an HX35? If so, how did you decide upon using this turbo?

 

I was going to, may still run it. I originally heard of it through some 2.3T guys, they were getting the HX35 to spool by 2500 rpm if they had a well ported setup, and were making really good power.

I've run across an HX30 which I'm buying, I think it's more suited to a stock engine since it's more comparable to a T3/4 with current era compressor/turbine design (Garret GT equivalent). My Holset will be given to my friend Crazy Dave for the 2.3T in his Merkur XR4ti. Those engines can hold a little over 400 whp stock, the HX35 is better suited to his car for that reason.

I'm not trying to imply you should run a different (smaller) turbo with your setup... I'd keep it the way it is. I just run across a lot of turbos, and I'm trying to hook my boy up AND save myself some fitment issues.

 

I was looking at the HX30 as an option, but my friend talked to an engineer at cummins and they said that the hx30 would not fit my b16 or his car very well at all so we opted for the hx35. I've guestimated my hp to be not much over 200 if at all at this point in time based on the capabilities of my injectors and their duty cycle as well as some butt dyno reports. I hope to get some numbers up real soon as I may have struck a deal with a shop with a dyno.

 

I went to the dyno Friday evening. I spent around 3-4 hrs with my car on the dyno. Despite some problems with my burner everything went really well. I got the car dialed in pretty good at 7 psi and then turned it up to 9 and got it close before I called it quits. I was getting really wore out and still needed to tune my friend d15b vtec with home made turbo. I ended up pulling 237hp and 165 tq @ 9 psi. Car pulls much harder now and I've lost a lot of traction in second gear and now have almost no traction in first on the streets. It'll be interesting to see what Kind of numbers I can pull at the strip.

 

I dunno about the HX30 being unsuited, olset themselves state:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The HX30 is suitable for engines of up to 5 litres capacity requiring up to 0.35kg/s of air at 3.0:1.

Aimed at medium duty applications, the HX30 is a well proven turbocharger on many 4 cylinder automotive, bus, agricultural and industrial applications.
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That makes it, to put it in laymans terms the average HTer can understand, about the size of a T3/4, capable of ~400 whp, and of GT-series efficiency.

I used to be able to find Holset compressor maps, need to poke around some more. The HX series 70% efficiency island was huge. You could literally fit a T04B compressor map inside the HX35 peak efficiency island.

BTW, congrats on your car. Time for more boost?

 

As soon as I get my hands on a back up car I'm going to get a 2 bar map sensor and run 12lbs of boost. Looking for roughly 275hp. I gotta keep up with a friend of mine thats nibbling at my heels