Reilly

I know it sounds crazy, but that turbos sounds f'ing awesome. Ryan Autry and I were talking about it the other night. Would you be able to spool it up and make it effective with the following mods?..

HKS T51 KAI--not SPL
GSR-Sleeved/rods/pistons
Ported Head/Springs/Retainers
Equal Length Manifold--Like the Sidewinder?
3" Downpipe-open, 3" exhaust for street
JG or similar intake manifold
Opened up to 2.0 liter if necessary?
All of the other normal stuff-Hondata,Inj,etc.

I'm considering it just for the sound

Thanks......

P.S. Ryan is in Vegas right now, so he won't be in this post for a few days......
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Modified by Reilly at 8:42 PM 7/14/2003

Mr. Softee

honestly - yes.

pissedoffsol

http://www.full-race.com/moderngarage/

Dee

I know of two TD07(TD07-25g and T78) Teg's on the main island near Osaka so a T51 for race would be monster sweet as long as you boost 18+psi.

Reilly

Yeah, that manifold is sick

Reilly

Would 18psi be necessary with say 10:1 cr? I'm trying to see if this thing would be drivable.
I was going with a Rev Hard 2C with precision sc34 turbo....easy bolt on........as soon as I decided between that and the work of doing DIY piping with the Sidewinder and puting the kit together myself, but the T51 just makes me like giddy like a schoolgirl when I hear it

Reilly

Drag_On

I would say yes- but you would want to bring it to a 2.0.. Punch it out and run low compression with big boost.. I would assume it would respond better with lower compression and higher boost.. Hell-- run 10:1 AND big boost and have a real mo fo tune it..

Reilly

At 10:1 comp, would it spool at 8-12lbs for street driving? Or would 9:1 with a little more boost be better? Seems to me the higher comp would help on street spool. Thanks.

gritsak

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if you are only going to run 8-12psi even just on the street its gonna be totally not worth it...that turbo is gonna need at least around 20psi to start breathing.

you will be very dissapointed on the street with that low of boost on such a big turbo.

the higher compression would help the spool, but for high boost and high compression you are going to have it seriously tuned well, and obv. run race gas.

Reilly

Tuning, for sure, running Hondata.
Race Gas and high boost for the track.
Just trying to see if it would be fast on the street with the lower boost settings. Like I said, want it, but don't want to give up the farm for it. I might be willing to pay the $1400 or so difference in price for the turbo vs the precision I was going to run for the sound/bling factor, but not if it makes the car worthless

tygsr

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THat was done at modern garage here in utah. THe car is sick and put down around 550hp on low boost I believe, uglyasscivic tuned it he would know the exact number..

Reilly

What turbo is that?

Reilly

The following reply was posted by DIRep972:

"There are alot of different types of T51's. which T51 are u talking about?"


Don't know where this post went? HKS T51 KAI.

Dee

Anything below 18psi on a 4 cylinder piston motor is a waste since most 4 cylinder motors do not have the exhaust energy needed to get the turbo spooled. For 8~12psi get a T04S or T04R.

Reilly

you meant with the t51 anything less than 18psi will not spool, correct?

Dee

It will spool but not until 6krpm. An H22/F23 will spool a T51 with no problems because it produces more exhaust energy than a b-series motor.

hawjdude

i just got killed by a supra with a t51r on the highway. Those single turbo upgrades are ******* fast on the highway. My civic only loss by 3 cars.

boosted92

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Probably stock fuel system + pumpgas T51. A poopra with a good fuel system, even on pump gas, with a T51 would put buslengths on your car.

Ask GSrev about a setup like this, he's running a PT74 on his car and said it didn't spool till like 6500, but that it's nasty from 6500-9000 or 9500.

hawjdude

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Probably stock fuel system + pumpgas T51. A poopra with a good fuel system, even on pump gas, with a T51 would put buslengths on your car.
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yeah i know he would put buslenghts on me but you know we both quit when i couldn't catch up. I get him this coming up weekend in the 1/4 mile run. Lets see how i do against him.