HELP with building b18b1
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HELP with building b18b1
i have a 93 civic with b18 b1 i have a turbo(unknown manufacture came with car ) i have the manifold and everything but i dont known how to build the motor so i dont blow it i dont have a large budget so whats the cheapest way to build the motor under 1k perferably its my dd so im gonna need to have it done quickly also (plus how long would it take to do it by myself)
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Re: HELP with building b18b1
I have learned from first hand experience that its a really good idea to have 2 cars if one of them is a turbo Honda. It sounds like you have a lot of research to do. Just pick up a cheap slow reliable beater, then build your Honda the way you want it.
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Re: HELP with building b18b1
Not to mention you can't build a motor for 1k and you sure as **** can't build a motor AND turbo a car. That might get you pistons and rods but that's it
You'd still need bearings, full gaskets, lots of replacement hardware, machine work on the motor, plus the tools to build the motor (plastigauge, bore mics, dial calipers, micrometers, ring filers, piston ring compressors, torque wrenches, stretch gauge, various thread lockers, sealants, bottom end assembly lube, cam assembly lube, moly lube... And so on.
That doeant include the biggest thing needed... You need knowledge to build a motor. It's not something you can read about on the internet and you can't read it in a book... You can only learn by doing while having someone with experience guiding you along.
If you have a shop build a motor you're easily looking at 3,000-4,000 dollars minimum depending on the quality and brand of the parts being used. Then add in the costs of going over your existing turbo system and correcting any faults... Which could easily cost anywhere from a few hundred dollars to a few thousand.
Then the motor has to be installed and broken in... Then it HAS to be tuned which can easily cost 500 dollars at minimum.
You need to read the FAQs at the top of this page numerous times before you do anything.
You also need to identify rhe parts of the turbo setup to determine what you have, if it's even usable, check for damage, cheap knockoff Chinese parts, address turbo size and the fuel system.
This needs to be done to establish what sort of power output the setup is capable of to determine if the motor even needs to be built
We need to see photos of your setup. Something tells me it's a half assed execution with few to no quality parts and no engine management.
You'd still need bearings, full gaskets, lots of replacement hardware, machine work on the motor, plus the tools to build the motor (plastigauge, bore mics, dial calipers, micrometers, ring filers, piston ring compressors, torque wrenches, stretch gauge, various thread lockers, sealants, bottom end assembly lube, cam assembly lube, moly lube... And so on.
That doeant include the biggest thing needed... You need knowledge to build a motor. It's not something you can read about on the internet and you can't read it in a book... You can only learn by doing while having someone with experience guiding you along.
If you have a shop build a motor you're easily looking at 3,000-4,000 dollars minimum depending on the quality and brand of the parts being used. Then add in the costs of going over your existing turbo system and correcting any faults... Which could easily cost anywhere from a few hundred dollars to a few thousand.
Then the motor has to be installed and broken in... Then it HAS to be tuned which can easily cost 500 dollars at minimum.
You need to read the FAQs at the top of this page numerous times before you do anything.
You also need to identify rhe parts of the turbo setup to determine what you have, if it's even usable, check for damage, cheap knockoff Chinese parts, address turbo size and the fuel system.
This needs to be done to establish what sort of power output the setup is capable of to determine if the motor even needs to be built
We need to see photos of your setup. Something tells me it's a half assed execution with few to no quality parts and no engine management.
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Re: HELP with building b18b1
Under $1k and needs to be done quickly - sounds like a recipe for failure
I'd give you more than that ^^ but Wantboost already made his fingers bleed to give you all the answers
I'd give you more than that ^^ but Wantboost already made his fingers bleed to give you all the answers
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Even boosting a bone stock engine is gonna cost over 1k. I spent something like 2500 building my SHORTBLOCK by myself. I still have a head to rebuild and every piece of the turbo puzzle to buy. I think ill be around the 7-8k mark once its boosted just into the engine
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Re: HELP with building b18b1
I rebuilt a stock GSR last winter for a friend and it cost probably $800-1000...i have reciepts, but it doesn't matter. It had a spun bearing and needed new rings and a hone, but parts add up fast.
-New gasket kit
-Head gasket
-Main/Rod bearings
-Piston rings ($150+)
-Oil pump
-Water pump
-Rear main seal (if not included in gasket kit)
-Copper spray, Nitrile Gloves, RTV, ziplocks, etc....
-Machine work
Point is, things get 'spensive quickly ... even before you throw in some forged pistons / rods
-New gasket kit
-Head gasket
-Main/Rod bearings
-Piston rings ($150+)
-Oil pump
-Water pump
-Rear main seal (if not included in gasket kit)
-Copper spray, Nitrile Gloves, RTV, ziplocks, etc....
-Machine work
Point is, things get 'spensive quickly ... even before you throw in some forged pistons / rods
Last edited by Schister66; 10-17-2014 at 07:23 AM.
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Re: HELP with building b18b1
If you have the majority of a turbo kit that is in usable condition I would say you could turbo your stock motor pretty easily with a grand and some knowledge, but that's the catch, you need to know what you're doing, if you don't have any type of experience with engines then you have a lot to learn before jumping into this, read the FAQ excessively, go over what parts you have, what might need repair and what you are missing (don't forget about fuel system and tuning) there's a really good write up on what you need to be able to add a turbo to your honda in the FAQ, go look that over for sure..
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I rebuilt a stock GSR last winter for a friend and it cost probably $800-1000...i have reciepts, but it doesn't matter. It had a spun bearing and needed new rings and a hone, but parts add up fast.
-New gasket kit
-Head gasket
-Main/Rod bearings
-Piston rings ($150+)
-Oil pump
-Water pump
-Rear main seal (if not included in gasket kit)
-Copper spray, Nitrile Gloves, RTV, ziplocks, etc....
-Machine work
Point is, things get 'spensive quickly ... even before you throw in some forged pistons / rods
-New gasket kit
-Head gasket
-Main/Rod bearings
-Piston rings ($150+)
-Oil pump
-Water pump
-Rear main seal (if not included in gasket kit)
-Copper spray, Nitrile Gloves, RTV, ziplocks, etc....
-Machine work
Point is, things get 'spensive quickly ... even before you throw in some forged pistons / rods
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