Is this head fixable?!?

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Old Jun 1, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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So i just went to install a b18b bottom end with my b16 head...Everything went ok, but the car only ran for about 2 minutes. I pull the cams to find this


This is the cam journal closest to the t-belt


2nd one closest to the tbelt


Cam itself


Cam cap


One more

I think i may have had my timing belt to tight, because the journals closest to the dizzy are fine, and they get worse closer to the tbelt. I don't know if this is fixable, or if the cam is any good any more
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Old Jun 1, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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Looks like its pretty well jacked
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Old Jun 1, 2007 | 08:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AaronJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Everything went ok, but the car only ran for about 2 minutes.</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol
did you have any oil in your head? see what your shop says, looks pretty well scarred tho- id say the cams are done for sure..
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 01:41 AM
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Default Re: Is this head fixable?!? (zeimbo)

If the grooves are not super deep, which they don't look to be, I think it can be fixed. I know Dave at headgames has fixed some like that but I don't know the extent of the damage.

Did you even use any assembly lube when you reinstalled those cams?
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 06:23 AM
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That head had no oil.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 06:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Muckman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That head had no oil.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 08:15 AM
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you can have that belt super tight and it wont do that. that head def didnt have enough oil and you ran the journals dry
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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assembly lube is your Friend
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 09:28 AM
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I don't think assembly lube would have saved that, you have a problem elsewhere. I usually don't use assembly lube when putting the cams in just make sure to put a lot of oil on everything.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 09:44 AM
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Yeah i didn't have any assembly lube, so i just put oil all over everything...I also fulled the ECU fuse and primed the engine to get oil pressure before i started it. I am supplying oil to the head via a filter sandwich and a line to the back of the head.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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you sure you had the cam caps in the right places and everything was clean

i had an itr head like that and sold it for cheap because i coulldnt get it fixed
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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i had the same thing happen to one of my heads a couple years ago, when i took the head off my ls vtec to put it on a gsr block i got. i had to drill the oil hole back out that was blocked for the ls motor but i obviously didnt get all the metal shavings out and they chewed up the head and cam pretty bad just like that.. so id say u had some dirt or metal shavings that worked there way in there and ate it up or blocked the oil passage.. u wanna make sure everything is very clean of dirt or anything that would clog the oil passage...
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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did put the caps for the cams on too tight?
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Default Re: Is this head fixable?!? (AaronJ)

Hey dumb question - do you have a "LS/VTEC" oil feed for the head?
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Muckman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey dumb question - do you have a "LS/VTEC" oil feed for the head?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Another dumb one, what timing belt did you use??
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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Default Re: Is this head fixable?!? (AaronJ)

all I can say is....wow! Jesus couldn't fix that..and he has help from above.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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Default Re: Is this head fixable?!? (AaronJ)

no oil , what way where the numbers facing when you put the caps back on ???
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr HYDE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can have that belt super tight and it wont do that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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