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Old 06-01-2007, 08:33 PM
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So i just went to install a b18b bottom end with my b16 head...Everything went ok, but the car only ran for about 2 minutes. I pull the cams to find this


This is the cam journal closest to the t-belt


2nd one closest to the tbelt


Cam itself


Cam cap


One more

I think i may have had my timing belt to tight, because the journals closest to the dizzy are fine, and they get worse closer to the tbelt. I don't know if this is fixable, or if the cam is any good any more
Old 06-01-2007, 08:35 PM
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Default Re: Is this head fixable?!? (AaronJ)

Looks like its pretty well jacked
Old 06-01-2007, 08:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AaronJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Everything went ok, but the car only ran for about 2 minutes.</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol
did you have any oil in your head? see what your shop says, looks pretty well scarred tho- id say the cams are done for sure..
Old 06-02-2007, 01:41 AM
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Default Re: Is this head fixable?!? (zeimbo)

If the grooves are not super deep, which they don't look to be, I think it can be fixed. I know Dave at headgames has fixed some like that but I don't know the extent of the damage.

Did you even use any assembly lube when you reinstalled those cams?
Old 06-02-2007, 06:23 AM
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Default Re: Is this head fixable?!? (AaronJ)

That head had no oil.
Old 06-02-2007, 06:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Muckman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That head had no oil.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Old 06-02-2007, 08:15 AM
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Default Re: Is this head fixable?!? (Turbocivic94)

you can have that belt super tight and it wont do that. that head def didnt have enough oil and you ran the journals dry
Old 06-02-2007, 09:16 AM
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assembly lube is your Friend
Old 06-02-2007, 09:28 AM
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I don't think assembly lube would have saved that, you have a problem elsewhere. I usually don't use assembly lube when putting the cams in just make sure to put a lot of oil on everything.
Old 06-02-2007, 09:44 AM
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Default Re: (BlueSi2k)

Yeah i didn't have any assembly lube, so i just put oil all over everything...I also fulled the ECU fuse and primed the engine to get oil pressure before i started it. I am supplying oil to the head via a filter sandwich and a line to the back of the head.
Old 06-02-2007, 10:51 AM
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you sure you had the cam caps in the right places and everything was clean

i had an itr head like that and sold it for cheap because i coulldnt get it fixed
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i had the same thing happen to one of my heads a couple years ago, when i took the head off my ls vtec to put it on a gsr block i got. i had to drill the oil hole back out that was blocked for the ls motor but i obviously didnt get all the metal shavings out and they chewed up the head and cam pretty bad just like that.. so id say u had some dirt or metal shavings that worked there way in there and ate it up or blocked the oil passage.. u wanna make sure everything is very clean of dirt or anything that would clog the oil passage...
Old 06-02-2007, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: (TcUiRvBiOc)

did put the caps for the cams on too tight?
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Default Re: Is this head fixable?!? (AaronJ)

Hey dumb question - do you have a "LS/VTEC" oil feed for the head?
Old 06-02-2007, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: Is this head fixable?!? (Muckman)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Muckman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey dumb question - do you have a "LS/VTEC" oil feed for the head?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Another dumb one, what timing belt did you use??
Old 06-04-2007, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: Is this head fixable?!? (AaronJ)

all I can say is....wow! Jesus couldn't fix that..and he has help from above.
Old 06-04-2007, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: Is this head fixable?!? (AaronJ)

no oil , what way where the numbers facing when you put the caps back on ???
Old 06-21-2007, 04:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr HYDE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can have that belt super tight and it wont do that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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