gt42r 700+hp SFWD EG civic in the works...Pics inside
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The Tea-father »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good ****, can't wait to see what this bad boy is putting down, cortney know his suff , you're in a good hand. nah mean </TD></TR></TABLE>
haha...thanks man. i should hit 800whp and if i dont i have a backup plan...*cough* nitrous *cough*
haha...thanks man. i should hit 800whp and if i dont i have a backup plan...*cough* nitrous *cough*
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Re: gt42r 700+hp SFWD EG civic in the works...Pics inside (gt42r_civic)
[QUOTE=gt42r_civic]BLOCK:
Exospeed opendeck sleeves
SuperTech 81.5mm pistons
Full-Race(Manley) TurboTuff rods
ITR crank
HEAD:
b16 head
SuperTech Valvetrain
SuperTech valves - Inconel exhaust/Black nitride intake
Full PnP
GSR cams
JG Victor X intake manifold
STR 68mm TB
TURBO SETUP:
Full-Race TopMount manifold
Garrett gt42r 1.01a/r
2.5" intercooler piping
Precision 750hp intercooler
Tial 44mm wastegate
Tial 50mm BOV
4" downpipe and full exhaust
FUEL SETUP:
Aeromotive Eliminator fuel pump
Aeromotive FPR
-10 feed and -6 return SS fuel lines
STR Fuel Rail
Precision 1600cc injectors
TRANNY:
GSR open diff for temporary
Exedy semi carbon twin disc clutch kit
Gator axles(will be buying next)
ALL THE EXTRAS NOT LISTED ABOVE :
AEM EMS
MSD 6A
MSD HVC2 coil
NOS wet kit(50-100shot) if i need it
PLX M-300 wideband
CHASSIS = 1994 Honda civic hatchback
Sure I am forgeting some things. Thanks to Cortney Green for assembling the engine for me and also to everyone else helping me find all the parts I needed for the build. Also thanks to Full-Race/Geoff for the Topnotch manifold...AND BoostFed for the turbo!!! [QUOTE]
looks like i may have some competion in TN......looking forward to it.
where at in TN are you.
harv
Exospeed opendeck sleeves
SuperTech 81.5mm pistons
Full-Race(Manley) TurboTuff rods
ITR crank
HEAD:
b16 head
SuperTech Valvetrain
SuperTech valves - Inconel exhaust/Black nitride intake
Full PnP
GSR cams
JG Victor X intake manifold
STR 68mm TB
TURBO SETUP:
Full-Race TopMount manifold
Garrett gt42r 1.01a/r
2.5" intercooler piping
Precision 750hp intercooler
Tial 44mm wastegate
Tial 50mm BOV
4" downpipe and full exhaust
FUEL SETUP:
Aeromotive Eliminator fuel pump
Aeromotive FPR
-10 feed and -6 return SS fuel lines
STR Fuel Rail
Precision 1600cc injectors
TRANNY:
GSR open diff for temporary
Exedy semi carbon twin disc clutch kit
Gator axles(will be buying next)
ALL THE EXTRAS NOT LISTED ABOVE :
AEM EMS
MSD 6A
MSD HVC2 coil
NOS wet kit(50-100shot) if i need it
PLX M-300 wideband
CHASSIS = 1994 Honda civic hatchback
Sure I am forgeting some things. Thanks to Cortney Green for assembling the engine for me and also to everyone else helping me find all the parts I needed for the build. Also thanks to Full-Race/Geoff for the Topnotch manifold...AND BoostFed for the turbo!!! [QUOTE]
looks like i may have some competion in TN......looking forward to it.
where at in TN are you.
harv
#53
Has anybody actually measured the pressure drop thru the charge piping at the 800 WHP level? Saying, "You definitely need to be using 3" IC piping" seems like a suggestion based on hearsay more then anything.
Even with 2.5" IC piping, the charge isn't moving all that fast. It's still well within the range of non-turbulent airflow velocities.
Even with 2.5" IC piping, the charge isn't moving all that fast. It's still well within the range of non-turbulent airflow velocities.
#54
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Re: (99_GS-T)
I'd assume that garrett made the outlet 3" for a reason. And the air is moving fast, i don't know what you consider fast. It's about mass flow through a given tube size. "turncoat" i belive ran all the numbers and even at 400hp there was a pressure drop through 2.5" pipes that was almost nothing in 3".
Oh, and boostfed found pretty good gains by bigger piping and bigger t/b above 600whp.
Oh, and boostfed found pretty good gains by bigger piping and bigger t/b above 600whp.
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Let's not forget, the GT42R was made for a 10.7 L turbo diesel, not a 1.8L Honda. The idea of it being 'made that way for a reason' doesn't exactly hold up here as we are using this turbo for a much different application then what the turbo was designed for.
I'm sure a 10.7 L has the air moving pretty fast. Fast in my mind is up around .5 mach velocity.
I'm sure 3" can show gains over 2.5" at a given boost level. But you can turn up the boost to make up for it. But if he already has the 2.5" tubing done, I don't think it would be worth it to remake the piping.
I'm sure a 10.7 L has the air moving pretty fast. Fast in my mind is up around .5 mach velocity.
I'm sure 3" can show gains over 2.5" at a given boost level. But you can turn up the boost to make up for it. But if he already has the 2.5" tubing done, I don't think it would be worth it to remake the piping.
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If you're putting a 42r on a damn honda then you better be looking for every last bit of power. If you can pick up 30+hp by changing ic pipes, then you better be all over that. If that doesn't matter so much to you, then get a turbo more suited to your application. Either way, you're moving a huge mass of air and the bigger pipes will have less pressure drop.
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it must be the off season shruggs
it must be the off season shruggs
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it must be the off season shruggs</TD></TR></TABLE>
and you know this....
it must be the off season shruggs</TD></TR></TABLE>
and you know this....
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Well, if its true you are insulting a lot of people that ride bmx that are also in the sport compact industry.
Everyone at Full-Race to name one.
Have a Merry Christmas, I guess
Everyone at Full-Race to name one.
Have a Merry Christmas, I guess
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you're putting a 42r on a damn honda then you better be looking for every last bit of power. If you can pick up 30+hp by changing ic pipes, then you better be all over that. If that doesn't matter so much to you, then get a turbo more suited to your application. Either way, you're moving a huge mass of air and the bigger pipes will have less pressure drop.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Which is why I asked if anybody had actually done any testing to verify that 3" IC piping is actually beneficial or if it was just a 'bigger is better' statement.
Mathematically, it doesn’t seem worth it, which is why I asked for empirical data.
Cort, stop crying, baby.
By the way, give me a call, I need your number so I can make late night anonymous calls asking for sucky sucky.
Which is why I asked if anybody had actually done any testing to verify that 3" IC piping is actually beneficial or if it was just a 'bigger is better' statement.
Mathematically, it doesn’t seem worth it, which is why I asked for empirical data.
Cort, stop crying, baby.
By the way, give me a call, I need your number so I can make late night anonymous calls asking for sucky sucky.
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Which is why I asked if anybody had actually done any testing to verify that 3" IC piping is actually beneficial or if it was just a 'bigger is better' statement.
Mathematically, it doesn’t seem worth it, which is why I asked for empirical data. lol
Modified by uglyasscivic at 6:28 PM 12/22/2005
Which is why I asked if anybody had actually done any testing to verify that 3" IC piping is actually beneficial or if it was just a 'bigger is better' statement.
Mathematically, it doesn’t seem worth it, which is why I asked for empirical data. lol
Modified by uglyasscivic at 6:28 PM 12/22/2005
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hey...
Wait...I love the off season...
Read the last line of that post again, beotch.
Is this car at your shop? Anything sweet and out of the ordianary I'd be interested in seeing on this car???
Wait...I love the off season...
Read the last line of that post again, beotch.
Is this car at your shop? Anything sweet and out of the ordianary I'd be interested in seeing on this car???
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3" ic piping is DEFINITELY beneficial at that power level! And no, I don't have proof but I talked to Al from Dynoflash about his setup the last time he was at Buschers shop for the dyno shootout and the 35r he had was maxed out and he was looking for more power. He goes ahead with the 40r and WAM, no power gains? I wonder why. Next mods he did was upgrade to 70mm tb and 3" ic pipes all the way around and he saw close to 60whp I believe. He was making near 650whp and now(well before he exploded his rocker arm) he was making 746awhp. If that doesn't speak for itself I don't know what does.
Ryan
Ryan
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Re: (Suprdave)
BreastFed made the same power, but at 2 psi less boost when he switched from 2.5" to 3" charge piping on his gt40R setup:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1447804
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1447804