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Old 11-01-2003, 09:31 PM
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Okay so Im going to turbo charge, but recently i burned my gsr tranny, so now im getting a b16, i mean i knoe ima b slower cuz shorter gears. but i mean HOW MUCH SLOWER could it get. Will it be bad? like REALLY slow? Any idea let me know
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no your xceleration will be faste rwith shorter gears not slower.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BVM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no your xceleration will be faste rwith shorter gears not slower.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Right, he will be quicker but top end he will be slower


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Old 11-02-2003, 07:38 AM
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glad to hear that, but i mean i knoe top end will b slower, but it couldnt be TO much slower will it? I mean im running boost to im sure it will try to make up for the slower top end =/? yes or no?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18c1Turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">glad to hear that, but i mean i knoe top end will b slower, but it couldnt be TO much slower will it? I mean im running boost to im sure it will try to make up for the slower top end =/? yes or no?</TD></TR></TABLE>

english please.

No it won't be slower dude. You shouldn't be in boost for more than 20 seconds anyway. Any longer and you risk melting the pistons. Ask people about there highway races and they 5th gear runs.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MachAF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

english please.

No it won't be slower dude. You shouldn't be in boost for more than 20 seconds anyway. Any longer and you risk melting the pistons. Ask people about there highway races and they 5th gear runs.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Lol sorrie about that. Well i mean first i heard you cant boost 5th. And other people have told me that you could be slower ALL AROUND. I mean with a Ls tranny i think i would be slower. But i dont know about a si. So far its better acceleration off the line? Is that right? And how bout through the other gears. Maybe someone can help me on that.
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so how can i make my topend a little better?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Soon_2b_evil &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so how can i make my topend a little better?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes ??
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Default Re: Gsr Motor w/b16tranny discussion (B18c1Turbo)

my friend's ITR tranny (essentially same gears as b16) goes to 7000rpm at 130mph

If you plan on traping more than 130mph when dragging, then get a different tranny, but i doubt you will, so the b16 will be working to your advantage.
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hm thats good to know, i still want other opinions too. Especially on IF my top end is a little slower what can i do to make it faster. Thanks tho
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18c1Turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hm thats good to know, i still want other opinions too. Especially on IF my top end is a little slower what can i do to make it faster. Thanks tho </TD></TR></TABLE>
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can anyone help me on the above?
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Default Re: Gsr Motor w/b16tranny discussion (B18c1Turbo)

Shorter Gears (Taller Numerically) accelerate faster, period...

Why do people try to argue this? You will loose top end, but your accleration to given mph will be faster, period. End of story...Highway Racing is :greddy: anyways.

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dude this is getting a little rediculous. WTF is your question already? Shorter gears = faster accelaration and lower top speed
longer gears = slower accelaration and higher top speed

what's the rocketry here and WTF do you want to know already.

They are GEARS, you can't have the best of both worlds. And how often are you going to need to go above 130 as it is?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Johnyquest &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude this is getting a little rediculous. WTF is your question already? Shorter gears = faster accelaration and lower top speed
longer gears = slower accelaration and higher top speed

what's the rocketry here and WTF do you want to know already.

They are GEARS, you can't have the best of both worlds. And how often are you going to need to go above 130 as it is?</TD></TR></TABLE>

jesus freakin christ man okay god shut up. Dont get no attitude with me. Came to this site to learn things not get bitched at. I know this already i just still wanted other opinions about how i can increase top speed. If i cant then ok. Just calm down. End of forum here..im done, dont post if ur going to be a bitcha bout it
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what i told you in my first post is correct, ignore all the other comments that say otherwise. You cant increase your top speed, you will still be able to go fast enough to kill yourself. Is that what you wanted to know?


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Default Re: Gsr Motor w/b16tranny discussion (rjardy)

Couldn't he just use LS 5'th gear??
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Will raising the rev limit allow for more MPH? That would be the only other option I can think of...
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thanks rjardy thats what i wanted to know. Um i heard boosting in 5th gear is not to safe. And other post, my bro has no rev limiter on his ecu. But i think it would be to much on my valvetrain and so forth, ill just keep it safe at 8200 0_o
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18c1Turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks rjardy thats what i wanted to know. Um i heard boosting in 5th gear is not to safe. And other post, my bro has no rev limiter on his ecu. But i think it would be to much on my valvetrain and so forth, ill just keep it safe at 8200 0_o</TD></TR></TABLE>

then it's settled.

b16 tranny will top out at 8200 at about 140, LS would top out at roughly 165

what do you want? fast quarter mile or high speed freeway racing?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MachAF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

english please.

No it won't be slower dude. You shouldn't be in boost for more than 20 seconds anyway. Any longer and you risk melting the pistons. Ask people about there highway races and they 5th gear runs.</TD></TR></TABLE>

is that true for cars with forged pistons too? or stock honda pistons?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18c1Turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hm thats good to know, i still want other opinions too. Especially on IF my top end is a little slower what can i do to make it faster. Thanks tho </TD></TR></TABLE>

to compensate for the shorter gears of the B16 tranny, you'll have to run bigger rims/tires to go faster(higher mph)
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yea basically i want it off the line, but then im going to turbo charge soon and wanting to go from a roll or even high way. But yea start is where it usually happens and no im sure i won tget up to 130, im scared
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