jbell

before i start: this will be rather long, im looking for some guru's to read this through and help me. its pretty in-depth and technical, so beware i'll bold any questions i'm looking to have answered.

im pretty smart when it comes to engines and all that, but i haven't entirely ventured into forced induction.

please do not link me to budget turbo, its much more helpful to be able to talk to people about stuff, rather than read about someones setup.

im planning on turboing a d16z6 from a SI del sol. the donor car will be that del sol. easy enough

im planning on spending around $3000 on the car, so odds are the engine will have 120,000+ miles on it.

to start, i plan on pulling the engine. i'm not entirely sure what to replace besides the obvious gaskets. what should i look to replace/rebuild. i plan on taking everything out and apart, including the head, and cleaning it up. after that, i'll clean the block and head, spray them with some silver paint, and drop them back in.

after that, i'm looking to do a budget turbo setup. my idea is a 14b from an eclipse.
this is where i am confused.
-should i use the entire d16z6 engine, would a y8 manifold be better?
-i know i'll need a new clutch, not sure of what kind... what about flywheel? would a lightened one benifit me?
-i do not know what mainfold or intercooler to get.
-i'd prefer to avoid a custom piping setup. can i use a pipe kit from a eg civic?
-what intercoolers fit the del sol with little/no modifications and look clean? (meaning dont hang out under the bumper and fill most of the grill)

i really haven't been able to figure out what pieces to use. has anyone done this, and made a parts list? i am completely unsure of what manifolds/downpipes/etc to use, and things like exhaust... should i keep my cat? what size piping? 2.5"?

furthermore, when doing the rebuild, should i reuse bolts? is that safe?

im sure more questions will come up when i get some answers.

thanks in advance guys.


cliffnotes:
i need a parts list for a decent budge turbo setup.
i need to find out what piping kit i can use on a del sol.
i need info on what to replace on the rebuild.

i dont want to spend a ton of money on the rebuild either. i dont exactly have an endless supply of cash here. maybe $4500 for the entire thing, including the cost of the car, which i've set at $3000. figuring $1000 for the turbo setup and $500 on replacement parts during the rebuild. im not replacing all the pistons rods and valves, just whats worn or broken.

Drew Peacock

Leave the engine as it is you don't NEED to rebuild it you are obviously on a budget so thats an expense you can do without and if you do though totally unesscessaryNO do not reuse bolts.
Yeah a y8 manifold is better.
No real need for a lightened flywheel.
Get a good clutch suited for your applications tell the retailer how much power you are after etc.
2.5 in or 3in mandrel bent exhaust piping will do nicely the CAT will negatively affect performance depending on it condition it will be a restriction even if new.
Starion Intercooler will be good enough.
As far as a parts list do a search or checkout ones of those links you aren't interested in for some reason These questions come up every week or so people get tired of spouting out the same info time and time again.

HTH

jbell

thanks.

if i don't do a rebuild, would it still be smart to open the engine up and see if there is any serious wear from the 120+k miles.
i was planning on replacing the head gasket...

any info on an intercooler piping kit? if i get a piping kit, i assume i need a special intercooler to fit up to the point where the tubes end?

im planning on getting hondata. do i need things like larger injectors, a new fuel pump, or an adjustable cam gear?

Drew Peacock

Buy an engine that has a warranty do a compression test and leak down check, once you have it installed. If somethings wrong with it then take it back. These sohc engines aren't worth a heck of a lot. I wouldn't refreshen the engine unless your upgrading the parts ie forged internals.

Yeah you may need an specialised intercooler kit if you can't fabricate one yourself or get a shop to do it for you.

If you can get one made up>
2inch intercooler piping should be good flows up to 300hp just get a moderate sized intercooler that will fit under your bumper then fab up the piping to suit.

http://www.hondata.com check it out yourself. You will need bigger injectors and a higher flowing fuel pump wouldn't hurt. Apparently the adj cam gears only move the power band around on sohc they don't give you more power so probably not worth it.

jbell

how do i get piping made? i surely cant drive the car there to let them see it....

Happyman

A little information for you. The del Sol flywheel is 200 mm while the civic is 212. Yes, I know it's the same motor but for some reason honda thought the del sol needed a smaller flywheel. Just keep that in consideration when doing a clutch. As for the piping issue, people sell the greddy kit piping on here just pick that up. As for the intercooler, the 93-95 have a different bumper than the 96-97 so I'm really not sure. There are quiet a few sohc turbo del sols on this forum though. As for what clutch, I love my ACT HDSS. Talk to KTeller8 he got me a good price on mine. I really don't think you'll be happy with a 14b even if you don't wanna go super fast. My 15G drops out at about 5800-6000 and I'm upgrading to a t3 .60/.48. I'd suggest something bigger. Even a t3 .42/.48 would be better. If you have any questions don't hessitate to ask I like to help. Oh, and for 500 bucks you could buy a whole new SOHC VTEC with low mileage :-P lol

Edit: Wow I didn't even notice, you're from Jackson . I'm right by there(sorta). heh. I'm going to be selling my 15G/Greddy manifold/Downpipe and possibly an extra TurboXS BOV I have sitting around. Let me know I might hook it up for a decent price. The Downpipe is dented a good bit but it could be used for a little bit until you get a new one fabbed up.

jbell

sounds like a promising deal. what timeframe are you selling this in, i may need a few months to sell my 300zx first....

Johnyquest

My number one recommendation for a homemade / budget setup is first thing go to walmart and spend $200 on their wirefeed mig welder. It's cheap, not the best, but you will be able to make everything with it (downpipe, exhuast, chargepipes), not to mention you own it now.

That's what I did, and after seeing what some people wwant for prefabbed charge pipes alone, you can't go wrong. It comes in handy for so many things, like when you realize you need to weld ur BOV flange on....

Custom = best- i taught myself to weld in a day.

As far as intercooler, go on ebay and look for the "tyrus" intercoolers. perfect!

jbell

any resources on how to weld?

and the tyrus is perfect for the sol? edit- none on ebay.

Happyman

I have a greddy type 31 for a 99-00 si on my del sol its pretty good fits the whole thing but it sticks out the bottom a tiny bit...heres a pic

jbell

i was thinking one of these would be perfect.
http://www.johnnyracecar.com/

Ricey McRicerton

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http://www.johnnyracecar.com/

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Good call. I got the Greddy Type 24 on my EK hatch and it is wayyy too big for what I do.