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Old 02-28-2008, 04:48 PM
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I've had some underhood heat issues:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2094456
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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1702598

After some maintenance on the car, I found my spark plug wire holders melted:




Does this look like damage from underhood temps being high or could my spark plug wired be getting hot enough to do this?
Old 02-28-2008, 07:03 PM
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your hood is probably getting pretty hot. got any pics of your setup? how close is your turbo to the hood
Old 02-28-2008, 07:16 PM
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You've had the worst luck with high temps. You need a remote mounted turbo.
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God-damn man.

Coating companies should be chomping at the bit to test their products out on you, lol.
Old 02-28-2008, 07:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raiden571 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your hood is probably getting pretty hot. got any pics of your setup? how close is your turbo to the hood</TD></TR></TABLE>Fairly.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1702598
In that link I posted a picture of my hood and the two brown spots on it.


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You need some of those tiles they put on the shuttle
Old 02-28-2008, 07:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by inspyral &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You need some of those tiles they put on the shuttle </TD></TR></TABLE>

No, those just fly off, remember?
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you need some aerospace grade heat tape ****


Old 02-29-2008, 03:09 AM
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you dont have an EGT gauge?? I'd be curious what your exhaust temps are getting up to.

probably just richen it up a little and cool off that exhaust.
Old 02-29-2008, 04:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stackz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you dont have an EGT gauge?? I'd be curious what your exhaust temps are getting up to.

probably just richen it up a little and cool off that exhaust.</TD></TR></TABLE>I sorta melted my last EGT sensor.....
Got a new one on there that is not in the direct flow of the exhaust. It is recessed inside the weld nut. Will find out this weekend what EGT's get to driving back roads. And next weekend will find out what they get to driving on track.
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either header wrap or a vented hood. or you can cut up your front bumper to allow more aire in?
Old 02-29-2008, 04:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrlegoman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I sorta melted my last EGT sensor.....
Got a new one on there that is not in the direct flow of the exhaust. It is recessed inside the weld nut. Will find out this weekend what EGT's get to driving back roads. And next weekend will find out what they get to driving on track.</TD></TR></TABLE>

wow dude, they get hot enough to melt the sensor?? that should sorta give you an idea lol....
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As hot as it is...why not make up a CAI?

Also, what coating is that on the header?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Speed Industry &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As hot as it is...why not make up a CAI?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's on the list of things to do. But my air-intake-temps are acceptable on track, so it is not a priority.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Speed Industry &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, what coating is that on the header?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here is all the goodness on my coating issues:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2094456
Currently the coating is the 2000deg HPC extreme.
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probably need to re-tune that thing, it shouldn't be putting off that much heat to melt things let alone an egt sensor.

how do your spark plugs look? lean?

also, where is your exhaust / wg dumping, if it's to short & going back up into the bay, that could also cause this..
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maybe turbo hondas aren't for you lol
Old 02-29-2008, 10:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Running925 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">probably need to re-tune that thing, it shouldn't be putting off that much heat to melt things let alone an egt sensor.

how do your spark plugs look? lean?

also, where is your exhaust / wg dumping, if it's to short & going back up into the bay, that could also cause this..</TD></TR></TABLE>
I've had it back for a retune twice now. The tuner feels the everything is setup in an optimal safe configuration for the type of driving that I am doing.

Here are the spark plugs I changed out the other day:
http://smallmountain.us/images...9.JPG

I have had issues with losing bolts every other track session. Heat and vibration are wrecking havoc. My turbo actually fell off during the GT Live race last year:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2120006
Manifold bolts, downpipe and wastegate bolts have all loosened before and any one of them could have caused excess hot gases into the engine compartment to cause this damage.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jewjew bean &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe turbo hondas aren't for you lol</TD></TR></TABLE>In order to get the same power/torque band I am in now, I would have to go to a K20 swap.
And K's are ghey.
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band-aid it!


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I guess that is part of my question. Is it the external heat from the turbo setup that is causing problems, or it it possible for the wires to get hot enough to melt plastic?
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i cant remember once ever touching spark plug wires and feeling heat.
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dam thats sucks man
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrlegoman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I guess that is part of my question. Is it the external heat from the turbo setup that is causing problems, or it it possible for the wires to get hot enough to melt plastic?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i doubt the wire could get hot enough to melt from its own current. dont feel bad though, you know what they say, if your not breaking ish, your not going fast enough...
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This looks like it melted from the outside, in other words if the wire was melting it It would be melting it on the bottom, not the top.

It does look like thats a finger print though, lol, you touch the wires?
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Damn you dont have good luck, I guess the next step is to safety wire all those bolts so they dont back out and make a heat shield above the turbo, maybe instead of brake cooling ducts you need some turbo cooling ducts


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