VIR Redline Time Attack - Full-Race Civic FTW

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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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This is a repost from the RR forum per the request of Geoff from Full-Race.

I don't even know where to start, so I'll let the pictures do the talking.

First off, got a new cage installed last weekend, some have request specs on it, so I'm going to do a separate post later once the car is clean:



Car felt completely different, but drove the hell out of it anyway:

Yes, my bumper is falling off and my wheels are rubbing.......

During the first practice Friday, something when boom in the tranny, lost 4th gear through 10:

(yes, 4th gear, go figure)

Got hold of Keven from hondaworks and he just so happened to have a spare ITR tranny!
So I got some new hotness Saturday morning:

Keven rules.

Not only that, but Keven and Cory helped with the install!! With air tools we (they mostly) got the transmission swapped in less then an hour on Saturday morning!

Cory rules too.

Old bust chit:

At least I have a spare.

ot: I called my American Express customer service to see if I had enough credit left and the conversation went something like this:

me: "Yeah, I need to see how much credit I have left so I can buy a tranny."
amex: (very long pause) "ummm......ok..... "
me: "A transmission for a car"
amex: "Oh, right, let me check on that for you."

Anyway, got everything back together in time to make Saturdays practice session. About halfway through I started losing boost and there was a whistling noise coming out from under the hood. I figured I'd ;ost a vacuum somewhere and wasn't too concerned. Unfortunately, I found out that the bolts holding the two c-clamps that hold the turbo exhaust housing onto the turbo had backed out. This caused the exhaust props to interfere with the housing. The blades lost:



So, in true Don fashion, I figured what else could go wrong. So I put everything back together Saturday night (a 6 hour process) and ran Sunday anyway. I was a little timid, but still made the cut and came in 1st for the modified FWD class! I know this isn't really a big deal, but it's my first physical trophy and after all I went though, it a big deal to me.


Although I must say, the trophy girls this year sucked:

Pimping the Full-Race hat and P1 shirt again.

Other notes from the weekend:
HPC failed!
I don't know if anyone has seen my ceramic header thread, but it will be updated again. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2094456
New HPC 1600 coating, ~500 h/w miles and ~20 track miles:

After event:


Also, still having lower ball joint rubbing issues:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1788276


And as to the cage, if your asking if the EG can still carry 4 wheels, 2 5-gallon gas cans, jack, luggage, jack-stands, oil pan, 2 foldy seats, cooler, tarp, race-wear, with enough room to close the hatch and still see out the back window, the answer is 'yes':

And yes, this is my daily driver and I drove to the event and back (barely).
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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lol...the back of the hatch pic is awesome.

hope you get the coating situation worked out. so weird.
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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love the back hatch pic...
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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That is the kind of victory that will stay with you for life. Congrats man

Have you considered the Jet-Hot 2000 instead of the HPC?
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX T-Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That is the kind of victory that will stay with you for life. Congrats man

Have you considered the Jet-Hot 2000 instead of the HPC?</TD></TR></TABLE>The main thing is that's I've already paid for the HPC. All the problems I've had so far is covered under their warranty. So I'm still out of pocket for all the shipping cost. We are probably gonna try the HPC 2000 deg coating next. If that doesn't work, then there is something else that is going on because there is no way the header is getting that hot.
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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Oh yeah, forgot about you HPC post.
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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HPC is junk, go with Swain coatings they have real ceramic coatings.
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DRAGLS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">HPC is junk, go with Swain coatings they have real ceramic coatings.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i heard good things about them as well
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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do you have an EGT gauge or did you log any exhuast temps? im curious to see what your timing is like.

sorry, nice job, turbo hondas kickin *** of the road course.
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrbsponge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you have an EGT gauge or did you log any exhuast temps? im curious to see what your timing is like.

sorry, nice job, turbo hondas kickin *** of the road course.</TD></TR></TABLE>Yeah, my EGT sensor kinda melted a little....
I'm working to get that fixed.
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 10:35 PM
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great job!!

I talked with you last year not sure if you remember. But this year I was able to bring mine out and raced time attack street class on patriot course..

although was disqualified due to me having FAL windows in the rear quarter. boo!

great job man!
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 02:44 AM
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Good job on the finish! looks like it was challenging to say the least

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrlegoman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yes, my bumper is falling off and my wheels are rubbing.......
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dont let the dude in the wheel and tire forum read this. If your tires rub your car is pretty much undrivable over there haha




Modified by Bailhatch at 4:49 PM 10/9/2007
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 03:41 AM
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Must be nice to have a spare tranny ROFL Nice pics! I'll be there for expo 8 i hope.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 04:24 AM
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NIce man. Good fixes
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 07:39 AM
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those are some fine trophy girls

exactly how obvious was the whistling noise? i just started getting a slight whistle noise as i start building boost.

what kind of suspension are you on?
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 07:59 AM
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great accomplishment + DD,
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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Nicely done! I've been keeping up on your Coating issues, sucky...I went with a company here in Phx and they have a 2000 degree coating and looks nice, similar to the sterrling from Jet hot but not as costly.. I paid $250 for my top mount, T4 housing and a 4" 7' long Down pipe. Came out nicely.. here is a shot
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsr x civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">those are some fine trophy girls

exactly how obvious was the whistling noise? i just started getting a slight whistle noise as i start building boost.

what kind of suspension are you on? </TD></TR></TABLE>On track, I thought a vacuum line had busted and it was just a vacuum leak. But it was a very obvious whistle that I could hear even on track with my helmet on. This was different and should not be confused from the whistle from the intake as it starts to such air in while boosting.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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why would you be charged for shipping your defunk HPC coated hardware when it is under warranty?

Sounds like it's not a complete warranty to me. Just having a business oriented perspective.

BTW...awesome job on the win and dealing with all those issues. Thanks goodness for helpful people.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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Congratulations on the win!

do you know what caused the clamp bolts to back out on the turbo?
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbotommy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Congratulations on the win!

do you know what caused the clamp bolts to back out on the turbo?</TD></TR></TABLE>Probably the same reason every other bolt has fallen off my turbo and manifold, heat and vibration.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2019609
I'm just going to have to be sure to nord-lock, stage8 & safety wire every damn bolt on the thing.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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Congrads on the win, it's nice to see results for all your hard work.

As far as the nuts backing out, I go through these same issues on our race boats. Safety wire is nice if it's a part you aren't taking often. Also look into "stover nuts" I use them on anything that gets too hot for a nyloc nut.

Also i was looking through that other thread about the bolts loosening and saw that someone posted they had issues with galling when using stainless nuts. If you thread stainless onto stainless it will gall easily, you have to use some sort of teflon paste on the threads. The last thing you want is having to remove a galled nut in a hard to reach place.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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Congratulations.

+1 for the Swain Tech coating.

What size radiator do you run?
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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congrats on the win man. its seems as if we share the same luck cause almost every time i read your post something is going wrong. that was sweet finding that tranny at the track i would have been screwed 7 hours from home with no upper gears makes for a long ride home. i'm done for the season but maybe next year i'll see you there.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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I'll look into the 'stover nuts'. Sound interesting

I've got a full-size 20mm thick Koyo(?) or Koyo copy.

FYI: I took my tires out of the back and found this on one of them:





Oh, well. At least these where my 'cheap' Rota rims.

Manifold if off and ready to ship back to F/R:



Going to the HPC Extreme coating (which is what I asked for in the first place ironically) and hopefully it will be covered under warranty.
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