My buddy is just about done with his new turbo setup and wants to double check to make sure he's not forgetting anything. Any ideas or tips would be great. Here it is:

2000 Civic Si
ERL Performance Superdeck II block (B16A2 w/ pressed in deck for 1.8 crank and 1.8 darton sleeves)
Balanced and blueprinted
JE 82mm 9:1 pistons
Crower rods
B16A2 head port and polished
Manley stainless steel valves
Skunk2 titanium retainers
Skunk2 springs
Skunk2 intake manifold
Skunk2 cam gears
T3/T4 .63 ar trim turbo
Revhard cast log manifold
Tial wastegate
Vortech bypsass valve
3" Thermal exhaust
Precision 880 injectors w/ resistor box
Walbro 255 lph hp fuel pump
AEM fuel rail
AEM fuel pressure regulator
AEM EMS
AEM C2DI
AEM 30-1010 Uego w/ gauge
3.5 bar map sensor
Intake temp sensor
EGT sensor
Electronic boost controller
LS 5 speed tranny
ACT XTSS clutch
ACT street-lit flywheel

He also is looking for help with maps for the AEM EMS. Anyone got any that would work?

How much whp do you think at around 25 psi?

 

looks like a nice setup.. long list of mods.

he should have gone w/ a larger bore to produce more tourqe while he was sleeving and boring it out but atleast at 82mm he has room to build up if he wanted, itll just cost more money

 

Just one recommendation, forget the LS trans, get a B16.

 

Ditch the EMS

 

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in favor of what, not disagreeing just curious.

Landon

 

Hondata...they will thank me later.

 

He's got a deal with AEM, so he can't. Anything else though?

 

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ERL Performance Superdeck II block (B16A2 w/ pressed in deck for 1.8 crank and 1.8 darton sleeves)
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What in the world does that mean? Pressed in deck for 1.8 crank in a b16? So he's using a GSR or LS crank with custom rods?

 

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Why is that I would really like to know?

So he can have the hesitation issues or so everytime he wants to make a change he has to burn a new chip.

 

I think its just a B16A2 block with a deck plate and GSR/LS sleeves. Then he just runs a GSR or LS crank with off the shelf pistons and rods.

With the Hondata Romulator, you can tune it realtime anytime you want and not have to burn chips. Get the Hondalogger and a PLX wideband and you set.

 

Little squimish about the AEM and it's overwhelming versatility??

 

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Why??

 

I don't see anything wrong with the EMS (and hopefully the post doesn't go off-topic into an AEM EMS vs. Hondata debate). Since he's got the AEM EMS and C2DI, why not get a set of CBR coils and run a coil on plug setup?

 

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Agreed.. The AEM EMS is one of the more versatil ecus on the market.. And the principals on which is it designed are much better than that of the hondata..

I would go with the CBR coils for coil on plug or go with a wastefire setup which is also very good..

 

Yeah, I'd like to keep it on topic guys. He is going with the EMS and its components because he has a semi-sponsorship with AEM. Can't argue with that.

What heat range of plugs do you guys think for 400-500 whp? BRK8's or 9's?

 

Street Honda - Hondata

Race Honda - Motec

The AEM is cool for all the other platforms (DSM, blah blah blah) but the Hondata is better for a street Honda. I could rattle off a handful of people I personally know that switched back to Hondata after their Tuned AEM ran like **** and constantly had problems. If he's got the hookup on an AEM then obviously keep it. If they feel they have a competant tuner and lots of time to spend on partial load\throttle portions of the map.

 

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9s

 

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That's interesting, but why? I'm sure it cost more than just a sleeved 1.8 block.

 

Results -
300 whp @ 11-12 psi
310 whp @ 14-15 psi

It started to show some spikes in the knock, so they didn't want to turn it up anymore. It was running 93 octane.

Garage Kwai by Chicago did the EMS tuning. Benson

100 octane and more boost here we come. Look for a yellow EK Si at BOTI 9/18-9/19

 

Those numbers seems a bit low with what you got.

I almost had my money at 400whp at 14psi with a .63 trim turbo.

 

Not my setup. The cams are really whats killing him. It made mad mid-range power and then flattened off around 7800 or so. The turbo is just too small for higher rpm hp. It is also only 9:1 compression. It has room to grow and with the 100 octane should see a lot more power.

 

What are your plug gaps at? I don't see an ignition coil in your list.

 

Yeah, not my car or engine, but the BKR7E's are gapped at .032" and he has the AEM C2DI ingintion system, but it wasn't hooked up. He was running the Blaster coil and MSD cap and wires.

 

Ranta,
That turbo has plenty for 450hp+. It isn't killing him. I don't think the cams are killing him either personally.
What does the timing map look like. Also a dyno chart with a/f would help.

Reaching the limits of 15psi on pump is about right.
I agree, the numbers are low. What dyno was this on?

 

Try gapping the plugs to about .025-.028. Play with it a little. Plug gap is very underestimated by most people, especially when you use the race gas.