draggbody

check the phase on the front and rear driveshafts... just mark a reference line on both, make it wheel hop and recheck... i could see machining a puck for the tcase down the road... w/ a selectable rear end, there should be no driveability issues because the drive shaft is just spinning and engaging nothing...

draggbody

here is the switch for the rear diff... i just wired the compressor and valve together... this is mounted in the cubby hole in the front of the shifter... on the top side completely out of view...

MalcolmV8

Where is the actual compressor mounted again? Is it noisy at all? do you hear it running while you drive?

draggbody

notice the left rear toe adjustment ... there is no fuel tank in the way anymore... very little noise and its only on when its in awd... so its not like thats the only thing you will hear... lol

Jamesl85

im loving the gauge set up.

Slacker93eg

Very impressive man, keep it up

draggbody

back to the driveshaft... i made a full on rookie mistake... i hardly never can resist taking something apart to see how it works, and the center joint in my crv driveshaft proved why i should always trust my gut... i way dead on about how i thought it looked and searched my *** off, but no one ever takes them apart... everyone makes a big deal about keeping the shaft strait as to not damage it... well, i want address those things... the center joint is a cv... just like an axle shaft, nothing special, nothing fragile... hell, i had to beat on the damn thing just to get it apart... the female part is lightly crimped to keep it from coming apart...

so my mistake... ASSuming that the entire female portion of the joint was splined, i "centered" up the the male portion so i would have plenty of play to install it into the transmission end... however the female part of the shaft didnt spline all the way up... and the knuckle portion of the shaft was just at the edge of the female portion... when the motor torqued, it allows the shaft to just barely slip out, thus the violent wheel hop... it was in and out of the female part of the cup that it would kindof engage, then slip....

here you can see the knuckle... a c clip holds it on... nothing special here...



here you can see how messed up the "splines" are on the inside... look at the shiney spots, you can definately tell where is was slipping...




here is the replacement joints... these are from a suzuki samurai and use the same joints as the dsm's... they are huge compared to the honda stuff... a couple adapters and these will bolt right up... notice the smallest spot on the honda shaft is less than 3/4"... not exactly a warm and fuzzy feeling... the suzuki shaft is over 1"...

comparison shots...

sdobson910

Your really making me want to make my hatch AWD, its really the last thing I wanna do to it then I can drive it all year round. Nice work...

H22AFerio

Man I love this thread I cant say that enough!

00_EKHatch

Very very cool stuff. I'm waiting patiently for videos in action. Aslo, what city are you from? I'm from Huntsville but live in Gulf Shores back and fourth. Reason I ask is you said you went to Montgomery. I'd love to see this thing in person one day.

draggbody

columbus ga...

00_EKHatch

Not too far off, I've actually dyno'd my car at mainstream before. Very nice place.

MalcolmV8

Great find on the drive shaft. Was there no way to make the Honda unit work because of the short amount of spline on the female end? Or did you just like the Suzuki piece more because it's beefier?

Does this mean your air compressor setup was possibly not needed as the wheel hop was from that shaft jumping splines? Either way you have a killer setup.

draggbody

im sure the stock shaft could work fine... they are a bitch to work with, friction welded joints, nonserviceable u joints and the tiny male shaft on the slip yoke... and the suzuki parts are way beefier... and no, i dont think the compressor was needed, however, i am glad it worked out like this because the compressor is a superior design with no delay on engagement...

Elias-Kiev

pardon, but where is this photo came from?
I dont really clear about wheel hop then.

help

osc007

iTrader: (4)

small world, I graduated High School from Hardaway High... back in '99

Thanks for keeping up with the updates; I really enjoy seeing your thought process and progression.

draggbody

this is inside of the center joint on the driveshaft... the mating shaft and knuckle go in here...

H22AFerio

Cant wait to see a video of this bad boy! how is the fabrication of the adaptor plate coming for the other driveshaft?

draggbody

drawn up and at the cnc now... hopefully this afternoon... im dropping the shafts off in the morning to be built...

H22AFerio

Verry nice! thats great that you have access to a CNC machine!

draggbody

so i TRIED to join hondaSUV.com to look at some attached images of some driveshafts... here is our sequence of emails... start at the bottom and read up... these guys need a life... lol




thanks...
----- Original Message -----
From: crv@myclanweb.net
To: Jimmy Boykin
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: HondaSUV.com Membership


> it baffles me that someone would so closely guard a website..


After almost a decade of running our site, and spending far too much of our time in the past dealing with spammers, we decided that reviewing all new accounts before granting them permission to post was better than having to actively monitor the site 24 hours a day.

If you haven't been on the management side of a website it's not something that's easy to understand.


> you are obviously a community that i dont want to be a part of...


As you wish.

Your account has been deleted.


Racoon

Administrator

HondaSUV.com




On February 29, 2012 at 11:20 AM Jimmy Boykin <jimmy@columbuscustomexhaust.com> wrote:


it baffles me that someone would so closely guard a website... i could understand screening spammers, but man you guys are tough... im no idiot, and i have tons of knowledge that you will see i dont mind sharing, but mainly to those who are not so critical of something as minor as owning a car that didnt come stock... heres a link, enjoy your holy grail of a website, you are obviously a community that i dont want to be a part of...

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2976240
----- Original Message -----
From: crv@myclanweb.net
To: Jimmy Boykin
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: HondaSUV.com Membership

My apologies, as I was working through the response list tonight, I didn't stop to consider what you were saying.



So you have a 2000 Civic into which you've transplanted the drive train from a CR-V?

And if that is correct, can I assume it was from a 1997-2001 CR-V?

Did you also transplant the B20 engine?



So you want to join HondaSUV.com because of the drive train in your Civic?



Racoon



>>>>out of order in email sequence<<<<



While the early Civic Wagons with RT4WD are an early version of the RT4WD system used in the CR-V and Element, it is only similar in that it uses rotational differences between the front and rear wheels to transfer some power to the rear wheels when the front wheels slip. The actual RT4WD mechanism is quite different. And I believe Honda stopped selling the Wagon in 1995 or 1996.




I am not aware of any Civic made in 2000 that came with RT4WD from Honda.

Can you provide web links to information about the model of Civic you have?



Thanks,

Racoon


On February 28, 2012 at 8:29 AM Jimmy Boykin <jimmy@columbuscustomexhaust.com> wrote:


what do you think the drivetrain came out of???
----- Original Message -----
From: crv@myclanweb.net
To: jimmy@columbuscustomexhaust.com
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:18 PM
Subject: HondaSUV.com Membership

I see that you've created an account on HondaSUV.com.
Our site is for owners of Honda CR-Vs, HRVs, Elements, Pilots, and Ridgelines.

Your profile says you drive a: "2000 civic awd"

Why do you want to join HondaSUV.com?

Thanks,
Racoon
Administrator
HondaSUV.com

Elias-Kiev

H22AFerio

wow what an idiot?? they havent made waggons since 1991! Unless you include the 92-95 Honda Civic RTSI that also had the R4AWD

wolve

gutted-dx

iTrader: (1)

haha, thats actually pretty funny