ok, i have been looking at the ebay turbo kits, and tehy dont look that bad, cast maifold ones, not stainless. the stainless ones crack all the time so i figured the cast one would hold up. the charge pipes are beaded, which will help them from blowing couplers off under boost, and the kit looks pretty good all around.
kit for reference...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW

my question is, has anyone had experience with the ones with teh cast manifolds? only things i found on here are with the stainless manifolds. if so, how much HP did you dyno at, and how well did the rest of the kit hold together?

 

they are getting better...i'll give you that much. The problem is that the turbo and wastegate in that setup are junk. They're just cheap immitation parts made in a cave in China. If you want to risk having problems w/ the turbo, go ahead and buy it. I wouldn't recommend it though!

 

i am not looking for big gains, just around 180-200 hp. do you think i could get there safely?

 

yeah, well i dont have 3-4 grand to spen on a good kit, and the greddy kit is gay unless you upgrade it to have an intercooler and it is then almost 2 grand itself. the it is 800 that i am looking at, and the only thing i see having to add to it is a dumptube, but i can have a buddy make me one.

 

piece together your own kit...

 

i asked anyone if they had experience with the ebay kits, not if they think i should piece together my own kit. if you dont have experience with the ebay kit or have anything to say to help out withthe ebay kits, then dont post in here.

 

it definately doesn't sound like a bad deal. modifications might be required to make everything fit perfectly. wastegate. bov and turbo could be a gamble. but i guess its not much of a gamble for 600. IC piping alone could run from 180-450 depending on where you get it from. intercooler from 100-150. its good that manifold is one piece cast but i'd rather have stainless steel cast.

now gamble would be in the turbo, wastegate and bov. you can inspect them but quality performance is not guaranteed. from that kit i would avoid all 3 at least wastegate and turbocharger - not worht the hastle even if its free. cost money to retune and dyno rental

 

yeah, but i dont feel like ahving to ge everything piece by pieca, and then finding out i forgot something, so i would rather buy a complete kit for chaep.

 

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That kit isn't totally complete. There's still a lot of crap that I don't see, like pretty much any kind of hardware for mounting that stuff and an oil drain line. The piping will most likely have to be modified for it to fit properly - like matching up the exhaust to dp and avoiding cutting out the fog grilles for the I/C piping (although that busted *** looking civic in the auction description still has its grilles.

Bottom line: even if you go with this 'kit,' you'll still end up buying a lot of random stuff and then wish you'd done it all yourself and done it right be piecing the whole thing together

 

Here i'll give you what you're looking for....

The kit is great...go buy it. You wont have any problems with it and if you do, they have great customer service.

Since you wont listen to our criticisms of the setup, i'll just tell you what you want to hear.

 

You have not seen the million posts about e-gay kits here on FI?? I would not waste my hard earned cash on one of these cheap kits. I have heard of the mani cracking or the turbo actually falling apart and other horrible stories. If it was really that cheap to boost a Honda, I think the majority of this site would have one of those kits. You get what you pay for and if you really want to get into boosting your ride there is really no cheap way around it.

Time+patience+$,$$$.$$ =BOOST!!!!

 

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The kit is great...go buy it. You wont have any problems with it and if you do, they have great customer service.

Since you wont listen to our criticisms of the setup, i'll just tell you what you want to hear.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Someone telling it like it is....that seems to be the new industry standard for tech support and information on products....customers don't want to hear the correct answer to the question they are asking, but instead you have to give them the answer they are looking for...even if it is not the correct answer.

 

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Turbos are junk, I have one right now in the shop and the downpipe flange bolts don't align up. The manifolds are cast so they do hold up, but I have seen some cases where as of late people are having issue with cracks showing up. Wastegates are junk as well, taking a big gamble there. Intercooler and piping should be ok.

Last, the company is , I'm seeing a lot of big companies like that on ebay taking money and not sending the part, or sending the wrong stuff. Then they change names and there is nothing anyone can really do.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ebaym...:2:us

Ask me how I know they sometimes don't ship parts, I bought something from them before for a customer....still waiting on the part. Actually the claim with paypal was filed and I won the dispute.

Don't go cheap, do it right and save the hassle of doing it two times

 

dont think that kit is fully complete tho. i had an ebay kit for my very first turbo build and it was nothing less of a DISASTER. the manifold cracked at every single place u could think imaginable, and i braced it to. the turbo seals blew within a week... i had to return it and go throught the trouble of them not taking it back... so i had to file a chargeback claim on the credit card.... then they finally give me my money back. and this was over a 6 months time period. listen to what everyone is telling you and dont get ebay kits, theyre a 75/25% gamble and youre the one whos gonna be assed out in the end and they will have your money till u do something about it. im also up for piecing one together, u control the quality in every single piece u choose. if u forget a part, just pick it up later, its not rocket science.

the only piece that was SEMI-DECENT was the intercooler... but it coulda been better thats for sure. learn from our mistakes, and dont get an ebay kit.

 

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There....now you have an opinion from someone who had the setup.

 

ok, i guess there is enough experience on them that they suck. so, what do you guys think about the greddy kit? what is expected hp from a stock d15b vtec?

 

you COULD spend a lot of money on a setup that comes preassembled, or you could take your time and build something yourself....you would make more power and save money...not to mention you might learn something in the process

 

well, i want a pre assebled kit, it is easier that way, i dont know much of anything about turbos, so i wouldnt know where to start, but how is the greddy kit?

 

i have been running an ebay turbo for the past 15k and just recently up the boost to 10psi. have had no problems with the turbo watsoever, no shaft play, oil spiting out, nothing.

 

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for few hunded dollars more you could probably find used/tested kit already fitted for your car. just as much gamble as kit from ebay. i had problems with fitment of name brands, don't see why ebay would fit any better. fabrication cost money, tuning cost money, rebuilds cost money. you can't just base everything on initial cost

 

ok, so the ebay kit is out the window...anyone got any advice about a turbo kit that is pre assembled? i have looked at full-race(too expensive), turbonetics(also pricey, but more reasonable), drag(not bad, any feedback?), revhard (great deal, any feed back?)

 

Peakboost

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1898343

 

there are not that many parts to turbo kit and often you overpay when you buy a kit and get stuck with stuff you do'nt really need.

and honestly, i do'nt see anything wrong with ebay piping for IC, IC itself and exhaust piping, even if it doesn't line up if you save hundreds you only need to spend a fraction to get it to line up. piping in that link looks decent its aluminum and flanged for bov - it costs money to weld on a flange. from ebay or better used thats already fitting for your car you can save lots of money on these

for turbo i'd recommend a brand name like turbonetics, garret, precision or whatever the latest bandwagon is.. get the right oil lines. and choose your turbo so it works the manifold/downpipe.

some shops wil give discount on multiple parts so its kind of like puttign together a turbo kit with parts that you like - just make sure its good enough deal

wastegate - get brand name
bov - get brand name although ebay will do the job as long as you inspect it for quality
thats about it for major parts everything else is minor.

if you can match manifold/turbo/downpipe then possibly dumptube/intercooler piping/wastegate/intercooler/bov you basically got most of the parts. then get oil lines/fittings tap oil pan, injectors-engine managment, redo your pcv setup, air filter, larger exhaust if needed, slim radiator fans may be needed, and IC couplers, clamps, hoses and fittings for vacuum lines

fabrications may include downpipe or to complete downpipe to exhaust, intercooler piping (flange install or cut/reweld for fitment issues), cutting bumper or removal of some brackets for IC and piping clearance, removal of some covers,


if you're really money conscious, piece all of parts together, make a price list like i did and see if it comes out cheaper when separate vs kit. keep in mind, lots of these parts can be purchased used and do very well. especially the ones that require fabrication. if you see IC piping, matching exhaust manifold/downpipe and dumptube for your setup - that will save some money and time

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sctuned &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Peakboost

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1898343</TD></TR></TABLE>

x2

 

one more thing to consider and it's even more important than the kit you choose.....What engine management are you planning to use? Everyone forgets this and spends a fortune on bulding the motor and getting a turbo, then end up blowing it all up because they didn't plan for properly tuning it all.