Ok so i just scored some bosh 1680cc injectors for cheap. so i made up my mind to run e85. im figuring i can make 450 on stock lines and a 255, and 600 with 10 an setup later on down the road.

whats the limit of power on stock lines and the limit on 1680 ccs i would really like to squeeze more power from the stock lines,than 450 so i hope im wrong. lol

 

the question is will the walbro support over 400hp on alcohal remember you need about 30% more alcohal to run at the same level of gas.
-6AN= up to 500 which is stock
-8AN= 500-700
-10AN= 900-1100
-12AN= insane hp

 

yes i understand that fromula. but people have made 600 on stock lines and 30% less than 600 is 420. that seems pretty weak.

 

you will need more than a walbro for ~460+ on e85

 

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i didnt use any formula but if you want one PM me. also i havent seen any cars making 600hp on gasoline with stock lines i dont believe they can flow enough fuel. and why does it seem weak the burn rates an BTU's produced by both are different. diesel is weak for hp but the torque is unbelievable.
benefits to alcohal= no detenation, preignition, high nox, and great cooling affect when being burned.

 

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i didnt use any formula but if you want one PM me. also i havent seen any cars making 600hp on gasoline with stock lines i dont believe they can flow enough fuel. and why does it seem weak the burn rates an BTU's produced by both are different. diesel is weak for hp but the torque is unbelievable.
benefits to alcohal= no detenation, preignition, high nox, and great cooling affect when being burned. </TD></TR></TABLE>

620ish max on stock lines and walbro on gas
475ish max on stock lines and walbro E85

"diesel is weak for hp but the torque is unbelievable"

What? how can a fuel be good for torque but bad for hp?

 

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620ish max on stock lines and walbro on gas
475ish max on stock lines and walbro E85

"diesel is weak for hp but the torque is unbelievable"

What? how can a fuel be good for torque but bad for hp?

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unless you got my fuel line kit lol...

maybe it's the QT fuel ? guaranteed gasoline hahahha

My truck makes 500 hp and 600 ft/lb...I don't understand how fuel can affect the HP but not torque...

 

I don't either since Hp is derived from torque based on RPM.

 

It's not really the lines that are the limiting factor on my numbers, it's the pump.

 

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I wasn't done editing smartass...

 

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620ish max on stock lines and walbro on gas
475ish max on stock lines and walbro E85

"diesel is weak for hp but the torque is unbelievable"

What? how can a fuel be good for torque but bad for hp?

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diesel releases more energy when burn than gasoline but also requires more work to burn it which is why you dont see diesels running in the 7K rpm range. also i know that the HP isnt gonna cross the TQ untill after 5252rpm which is why you see the insane TQ rating on diesels, most of them rev up to 5000. my dads cummings make around 300hp but with 550 ft/lbs of TQ

 

ya that has nothing to do with the fact that it uses diesel gas

 

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620ish max on stock lines and walbro on gas
475ish max on stock lines and walbro E85

"diesel is weak for hp but the torque is unbelievable"

What? how can a fuel be good for torque but bad for hp?

</TD></TR></TABLE>and you are the man T1

 

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maybe it's the QT fuel ? guaranteed gasoline hahahha

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Damm u guys have QT in texas? When i was there 3 weeks ago i didnt see one, i missed their egg rolls!!!

 

Just converted to E85 this week. H22 in a 92 CX. 950cc Precision injectors, Walbro 255 + an inline pump, Cooling Mist 50/50 H2O/methanol injection that activates @ 7.5 lbs. Dynoed @ 439 whp @ 18 psi. Stock lines handled pressure & flow fine.

 

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diesel is weak for hp but the torque is unbelievable.
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...or maybe diesels cant advance 'ignition' timing with rpm so they can't make high rpm Tq, so a higher peak Hp can't be made. Diesel has more energy per gram than gas or alcohol so it certainly could make big Hp, you have the engine confused with the fuel i think.