Dual Pass Intercooler poor performance?

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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 06:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by J. Davis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Curious, what are your IATs?

On a friend's car with an IC a little smaller than yours, on his old T3/T04E @ 20 psi, ~70-80 degree ambient temps, we were logging low to mid-90's at WOT. Pretty pimpy. The end tanks on his IC are also not "ideal," but it is what it is.

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I cant think of it right off hand..... I havent driven the car since June of 2005 but the highest I know I saw on the highway when running a mustang was about 90-93 degree ambient temps at WOT..... but driving around town normal I would say they where about the same as your friends.... and thats on a T3/T67 H.O. at 20psi
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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Yeah, the same car now has T4/T67. I didn't pay attention to the IATs at the time. I have the logs somewhere, I should pull them up. It was damn near freezing out at the time... 30-40 deg F range? Should be interesting. Might be a nice if not strictly accurate comparo for your IC.
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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All you need to do is run a back door intercooler from full-race.com and you can keep the a/c and use less intercoler piping since the turbo goes right into the intercooler and the only piping is the charge pipe from the intercooler to the throttle body.
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxhybrid1320 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All you need to do is run a back door intercooler from full-race.com and you can keep the a/c and use less intercoler piping since the turbo goes right into the intercooler and the only piping is the charge pipe from the intercooler to the throttle body. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Does the shorter IC piping balance out the restriction caused by the backdoor endtank setup?
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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I was told that there isnt any restriction from the backdoor setup. They got kits over 800hp with the backdoor setp.
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxhybrid1320 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was told that there isnt any restriction from the backdoor setup. They got kits over 800hp with the backdoor setp.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxhybrid1320 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was told that there isnt any restriction from the backdoor setup. They got kits over 800hp with the backdoor setp.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the inlet on the backdoor intercooler is there for a reason. it transitions the some what smooth/laminar flow from the compressor outlet to a more chaotic/turbulent flow at the intercooler inlet. a chaotic/turbulent flow through a FMIC/heat exchanger results in higher heat transfer (aka lower IATs) when compared to a smooth/laminar flow.

however, it's just a comprimise like everthing else....the transition requires a little more work from the compressor, but with the benefit of lower IATs. the BD FMICs also minimize hot side charge pipe volume, greatly reduce the chances of blowing off charge pipes, and it's easy to run traction bars with them

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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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I love the full-race design and over 800 hp is just crazy.
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 07:55 AM
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I had no idea charge exiting compressor was "smooth." I thought it was swirling, and pretty poor flowing; required a pressure drop or an immediate sharp bend to set it to rights.
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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was referring to flow from the comp outlet/hot side ic piping for a traditional style fmic endtank design is going to be "smoother" or more laminar at the ic inlet than the backdoor style.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 12:51 AM
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Ah.

Well, BD works fine, either way you look at it.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 06:42 AM
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so are these dual pass intercooler any good?
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 07:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Soon_2b_evil &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so are these dual pass intercooler any good? </TD></TR></TABLE>

No. Explanation given on first page.
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