dropped valve, why does it happen?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 01:15 PM
  #1  
Wo-Nelly's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 732
Likes: 0
Default dropped valve, why does it happen?

It's something I'd rather not experience. But why would it happen? Is it from a mis-shift/over-reving? Or something else?
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 01:47 PM
  #2  
Spartanic's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 536
Likes: 0
From: Planet Earth
Default Re: dropped valve, why does it happen? (Wo-Nelly)

It happens when the valve retainers suddenly pop off from mad abuse, now there is nothing holding it up so the only place it can go is down.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 01:53 PM
  #3  
accordfreak's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 2,011
Likes: 0
From: nor cal
Default Re: dropped valve, why does it happen? (Spartanic)

so then the springs and retainers are first to fail when the head goes?
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 02:36 PM
  #4  
Wo-Nelly's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 732
Likes: 0
Default Re: dropped valve, why does it happen? (Spartanic)

so is there anything you can do to prevent it from happening? What do you mean by "mad abuse"? I rev to 8k regularly and often stay in high rpms for a minute or 2
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 03:24 PM
  #5  
Spartanic's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 536
Likes: 0
From: Planet Earth
Default Re: dropped valve, why does it happen? (Wo-Nelly)

Honda motors are strong and lasts long but the more you rev your motor to 8k the quicker the valvetrain will wear down. Thats reason why most race teams rebuild their motors after a season of racing even though they have the top of the line racing parts.

The only way to prevent this from happening is proper tuning. Each time a new performance part is added to your motor you need to tune it to work in hormony with the rest of you parts.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 03:27 PM
  #6  
Tad's Avatar
Tad
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 9,051
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA
Default Re: dropped valve, why does it happen? (Spartanic)

if you have a stock engine thats redline is passed what your revving to...
you should be fine.

it'll take ALOT of reving to do any damage,
and prolly for years of doin it.

or at least thats what i think
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 03:34 PM
  #7  
earl's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,120
Likes: 3
From: Irvine, CA, usa
Default Re: dropped valve, why does it happen? (Spartanic)

A flat cam caused us to drop a valve. It shocks the valve train so hard that it knocks the keepers out of the retainer.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 03:36 PM
  #8  
danl's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 776
Likes: 0
From: pa, usa
Default Re: dropped valve, why does it happen? (Tad)

When somebody says to me that they dropped a valve I assume they mean that they burned one. Dropping or holing (or is it holeing) a piston is the same thing. Maybe I'm wrong. Never heard of or saw a motor where the valve spring retainers came out and literally dropped the valve, that would suck.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 03:57 PM
  #9  
earl's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,120
Likes: 3
From: Irvine, CA, usa
Default Re: dropped valve, why does it happen? (danl)

No, it definitely drops the valve into the cylinder.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 04:29 PM
  #10  
Wo-Nelly's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 732
Likes: 0
Default Re: dropped valve, why does it happen? (earl)

I'm talking about when the valve actually drops and would hit the piston, bounce around and tear up everything it comes into contact with. I'm not too worried about over reving or mis-shifting (not saying I have god like driving skills, but thats human error and can't really be prevented) I was just wondering what causes it and how I can prevent it.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 05:12 PM
  #11  
Jared's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 7,190
Likes: 0
From: Tallahassee, FL, US
Default Re: dropped valve, why does it happen? (earl)

From personal experience Taking stock steel retainers to 9k on a daily basis will eventually cause them to break and drop a valve.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 07:42 PM
  #12  
Wo-Nelly's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 732
Likes: 0
Default Re: dropped valve, why does it happen? (Jared)

so I guess just don't rev higher then teh stock rev limit and you should be ok?
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
patrick_yi_82
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
2
May 14, 2010 08:30 PM
turbolshatch
Forced Induction
4
Oct 5, 2007 08:43 AM
BLK99VTECR
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
25
Aug 4, 2005 02:33 PM
Hatch It
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated
6
May 19, 2004 01:27 PM
JChops
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
15
Oct 12, 2003 09:47 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:22 PM.