SiR Kid

Can Golden Eagle deck plate a B16a block to make the same dimensions as a GSR, and sleeve it as such? Just wondering, I've been looking for a GSR shortblock to send off to be sleeved just for some extra Oomph in the seat, but I can ALMOST get my block sleeved for as much as the shortblocks (messed up even) are going for around here. Plus, I know my block is a legally purchased JDM, no "official" problems at national races.

Anyone know? Price estimates on JUST the deckplate work?

Dream setup at this point is a standard GSR block stroke-wise, with an 84mm bore.

liam821

Im sure they could...but why? You can find a used LS block for $150...save the trouble and use that. LSVTEC.

liam

Mr. Softee

i think itd be cooler to deckplate a b18 block and still use a b18 crank w longer rods... increased rod/stroke ratio, same displacement... yum

Type-GS-R-Turbo

What does deckplate mean?

pissedoffsol

deck plate is basically like an inch or so of "block" welded on top of the current block, making the block physically taller.
The b16a casting is physically shorter than the b18a/b/c and b16b blocks.

Jody- I say just find yourself a legit gsr bottom end. It's not that hard.

****, if you want to do the deckplate- chet is selling his a3 that he put a rod through...

liam821

Take a look at this post....see the how there is a "plate" on the top of the block? It makes the "deck" about 1/2" taller so you have a longer stroke. With the use of longer (custom) rods you have a bigger motor.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=543823

liam

SiR Kid

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by liam821 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Im sure they could...but why? You can find a used LS block for $150...save the trouble and use that. LSVTEC.

liam</TD></TR></TABLE>

LSVTEC? No thanks, I've already got TOO many BS lines and hoses running all over the OUTSIDE of my engine from doing things Honda never intended.

I can't fit any more than a GSR height block under my hood with the EF platform, and that's probably going to rub like a bitch. This is still to remain a street car with FACTORY body panels.

Thanks guys.

Kwuaymaikrup

I say go for it...my B16 is at GE right now having this done. The price and time spent on finding and purchasing a B18c block was far more than just deckplating the one I have. Good luck

-Ryan

93LSivic

Im looking into having my own line of Deckplates made for our motors. Hopefully it'll be finalized by the winter time.

AVATAR

[QUOTE=SiR Kid]

LSVTEC? No thanks, I've already got TOO many BS lines and hoses running all over the OUTSIDE of my engine from doing things Honda never intended.
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Thats weird, I only got one extra line with my LS/VTEC I think I remember your engine bay though (the one with the air-water i/c and lots o lines), and I dont blame you.

SiR Kid

Oooook, another reason I might not wanna do this setup... I've heard/read a few rules of the racing sanctioning bodies... Power 4 class in most of them allows NO deckplate style motors, no matter the internal dimensions...

Still, I might do it just to save money for my street setup...

Kwuaymaikrup:
If you don't mind me asking, about how much did the b16a deckplating cost you?

liam821

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiR Kid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

LSVTEC? No thanks, I've already got TOO many BS lines and hoses running all over the OUTSIDE of my engine from doing things Honda never intended.

I can't fit any more than a GSR height block under my hood with the EF platform, and that's probably going to rub like a bitch. This is still to remain a street car with FACTORY body panels.

Thanks guys.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well its just one extra line. If you use a GE vtec conversion kit...it makes it a really clean install. Although i dont blame you..id personally rather use a GSR block also.

liam

khang77642

would that affect any clearance problems w/ hybird swaps in civics?

Boostfed

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by liam821 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Take a look at this post....see the how there is a "plate" on the top of the block? It makes the "deck" about 1/2" taller so you have a longer stroke. With the use of longer (custom) rods you have a bigger motor.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=543823

liam</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just a quick correction here, maybe you phrased it wrong but getting a deckplated motor allows you to run a longer stroker crank which in turn increases more displacement, the rods have nothing to do with it except R/S ratio. If you added the deck plate but did not go with a longer stroke motor but just did longer rods you would not increase the displacement of the motor but may make the R/S ratio better.

SiR Kid

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by khang77642 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">would that affect any clearance problems w/ hybird swaps in civics?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Only if they go over the GSR's deckheight. There is only about half an inch or less of clearance using stock mounts in the EG chassis bay. In the ED chassis, with my hasport mounts, I've got BARELY enough room to put a b18 block with a VTEC head... It might rub, but I plan on getting the SiR front end to swap out, so hopefully the cowl style hood will allow a little more breathing room.

X2BOARD

Clearance problems ? Aaaah, I love my single cam....

I say, if you plan on making alot of power....eeeh... w/e... This is how I see it.... You can sleeve that B16 block, bore it to what ? 1.7 ? 1.8 maybe ? And keep the great R/S Ratio of the B16... and a bit more displacement... It'll be like a B16 that grew a pair.

X2

MotorMatrix.com

I have one from SFP here that i am waiting to assemble with BME aluminum pistons and rods. here are some pics&gt;&gt;






you use a gsr crank and it makes it a 1.8L. it uses darton sleeves and is good to 40psi.

93LSivic

Looks like someone forgot to put some WD40 on those sleeves

Nice lookin block though!

MotorMatrix.com

i knew someone would say that and actually i soaked them in WD 40 but it has been sitting for so long. i just took the pictures last night.