its all good.

I dont know why everyone is in such a tizz over this new gate.I think its just another option i can choose.

I dont know why anyone wouldt want something like this around.

 

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You can do it, without a boost controller, by turning a wrench of course with the tial gate too... I also hope you are not implying that I dont work on my own car with the wrench turning comment but just the same you obviously can think what you want.

My point is that most people ultimately end up with a boost controller for many reasons... things like jumping out of your car in the middle of a road or track is kinda inconvient in my mind.

Even so, by the time you change around vac. lines and adjust preload on your syncronic gate and test it to make sure your configuration resulted in the desired pressure... in equal time or less I will bet money I could turn a allen wrench a few times and change the spring in the tial.

IMO the ability to change base pressure in a different way is a neat feature but not any more practical for people in the real world, so I find it to be a moot point... I guess though the frills and dressing is what sells these days. I personally have done well sticking to the kiss theory and focusing on more important things than a wastegates infinite tweaks that I dont need.

Sorry to the OP for adding to the off topic postings... I will leave my thoughts at that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well stated indeed..

 

i've been having this exact same problem on mine. glad to hear its an easy fix. i dont currently have any barbs on my chargepiping anywhere so would it work for me to t into the line off of my turbo compressor that goes to my wastegate and run it to the third barb on my synapse bov?

 

Well, my Integra only pulls around 10-12 inches of vacuum, but my SSQV doesn't surge...ROFL

Don't tell me something is wrong with my car unless you can somehow get more vacuum on my ITB setup

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tony the Tiger &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, my Integra only pulls around 10-12 inches of vacuum, but my SSQV doesn't surge...ROFL

Don't tell me something is wrong with my car unless you can somehow get more vacuum on my ITB setup </TD></TR></TABLE>

Psh, you mean you haven't put honda bond around the throttles? I thought thats how you got more vacuum.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tony the Tiger &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, my Integra only pulls around 10-12 inches of vacuum, but my SSQV doesn't surge...ROFL

Don't tell me something is wrong with my car unless you can somehow get more vacuum on my ITB setup </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ya, make sure the throttle plates are closing all the way

 

Hey, I done some FI cars in the past and a few race cars. I've used different products including TiAl and I'm always down to try something new to an extent.
But what is your problem whis synapse? Why don't you just let it be. this was a synapse tech thread and you havn't said much nut talk ****. Why don't you let your product speak for its self instead of you doing all the talking. Not defending any product, just of threads being littered with you bull ****!! How about when the thread says "need help with Tial" you jump in.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cptengineer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
But what is your problem whis synapse?</TD></TR></TABLE>
perhaps you should familiarize yourself with a situation before posting about it

 

Lmao... seriously close thread, the question has already been answered. No need to prolong this cat fat, although entertaining. Since we are criticizing one's products, i'm not sure if you guys already do this.. but you (Tial) needs to come with a better gasket w/ their wastegates. Took me two burnt gaskets to realize i'd be better off with no gasket at all and a little sealant.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GiNuWiNe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lmao... seriously close thread, the question has already been answered. No need to prolong this cat fat, although entertaining. Since we are criticizing one's products, i'm not sure if you guys already do this.. but you (Tial) needs to come with a better gasket w/ their wastegates. Took me two burnt gaskets to realize i'd be better off with no gasket at all and a little sealant. </TD></TR></TABLE>
we actually don't recommend using them - and we tell everyone that, but the vast majority of people want gaskets with their wastegate

 

Then why not send them w/ metal gaskets? instead of one's that you know are going to fail?

 

he said -10psi, not -10in/hg


10psi is close to 20inches

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GiNuWiNe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Then why not send them w/ metal gaskets? instead of one's that you know are going to fail?</TD></TR></TABLE>

?? all our tial gates have metal gaskets.

edit i cant spell:

i think they used to use other ones a while ago


Modified by mike@synapse motorsport at 1:42 PM 9/14/2007

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike@synapse motorsport &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

?? all our tial gates have metal gaskets.

i think they used to you other ones a while ago</TD></TR></TABLE>

correct

 

moderator Close this thread, subject is closed. No need for Tial to attack other companies

 

Get real man, you have no idea what you're talking about...

 

How did a BOV thread turn into a wastegate thread?!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SovXietday &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How did a BOV thread turn into a wastegate thread?!</TD></TR></TABLE>

that could be answered with this question "how come every thread that has synapse in the title, or the synapse brand is being talked about Tial comes in here and misrepresents his company acting all childish and butt hurt?

last i knew, new innovations in a market lead to a stronger and better market for all.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SovXietday &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How did a BOV thread turn into a wastegate thread?!</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Synapse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey Jake, I think that it is pretty cool that you guys will swap out springs for free for anyone that needs a different spring for their Tial 50mm BOV.

Will you guys do that also for anyone that needs a different spring pressure for their Tial wastegate? So that if someone wants to raise or lower their boost you'll swap out their spring for free?

Because with the Synapse wastegate, you don't even have to swap out springs to change base boost levels.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that's how....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Synapse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey Jake, I think that it is pretty cool that you guys will swap out springs for free for anyone that needs a different spring for their Tial 50mm BOV.

Will you guys do that also for anyone that needs a different spring pressure for their Tial wastegate? So that if someone wants to raise or lower their boost you'll swap out their spring for free?

Because with the Synapse wastegate, you don't even have to swap out springs to change base boost levels.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats how

EDIT: damn I was too slow...

 

LOL

 

Three ports too complicated?
Give me a break.

 

Ok let me rephrase:

Cluttered.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Synapse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Exactly as Sov has setup below, put a boost-only source to port C, the one on the side that you aren't using. You can tee the compressor-to-wastegate line as well and use that to avoid any tapping of fittings into the intercooler pipe.

Using the boost-only source on port C, equalizes the force required to open the BOV, no matter how much boost you run.

What you are experiencing is Flutterdump, where it surges then dumps the air. This is due to a delay in the valve's time to open. Boost-only to port C fixes this on a vent-to-atmoshpere setup.


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Ok, today I tapped a new fitting into the charge pipe for port C and rerouted everything else between 2 ports on my intake manifold so the bov could have its own port. This didn't fix the problem but I can say it may have improved slightly. It still flutters once or twice before blowing off.

So could the vacuum line be too long? It's about 2 feet long but there really anything I do about that unless I drill and tap another port closer to it. The line is about the same size id as one of the fittings on the bov.

It's still making ~-10psi vacuum after making these changes.

 

10psi of vacuum is OKAY...