Compression #'s and Compression Raito.. 1 in the same?

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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 12:31 PM
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Default Compression #'s and Compression Raito.. 1 in the same?

Ok, I know what the CR is (volume of chamber at BDC vs. TDC) and what compression is (amount of air in psi compressed in the chamber). Now to me it would make sense that as the ratio goes up, the actual compression # would go up too (same amount of air, less area to fit it = higher compression #'s), am I right or way off??
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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 12:54 PM
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Correct!
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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 12:55 PM
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what he said..
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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 01:06 PM
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So by that fact, would it be correct to assume a motor with a 9.0:1 CR would yield notably lower compression numbers than one that has a 10.0:1 CR ?

Eg: 9.0:1= 180's and 10.0:1= 210's <--- comp numbers used as an example

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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 04:45 PM
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Not so. Lot of other factors involved..duration of cams, overlap of cams, cam timing, condition of valves and springs, ring seal, leaking head gasket, amount of carbon on pistons and valves, etc.
It even makes a difference if you do the test with the throttle body open or closed.
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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 04:49 PM
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All things being equal, compression #'s and compression ratio will rise together. As Earl pointed out though, things are not always equal. I've seen as much as 20 psi variance on the same engine using different gauges. Additionally, using cam gears to dial in/dial out overlap can change compression numbers, too.

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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 04:44 AM
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Understandable that there are multiple factors involved in reading a motor's compression, but as a general rule, engines with higher CRs will typically have higher compression readings than engines with lower CRs, yes ?

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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 05:55 AM
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No, not even as a general rule because of camshafts. But, everything being equal in the same motor, the 11-1 cr should give a higher compression # than the 10-1.
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 06:41 AM
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No, not even as a general rule because of camshafts. But, everything being equal in the same motor, the 11-1 cr should give a higher compression # than the 10-1.

Right.. in other words, all other things equal, a motor with a higher CR will yield a higher compression number

Thanks guys.. X2, I'll take delivery of those Z3 fenders tomorrow thanks
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 08:05 AM
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No, not even as a general rule because of camshafts. But, everything being equal in the same motor, the 11-1 cr should give a higher compression # than the 10-1.


Right.. in other words, all other things equal, a motor with a higher CR will yield a higher compression number

Thanks guys.. X2, I'll take delivery of those Z3 fenders tomorrow thanks

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