Cast SideWinder is SOOOO close :)
11-01-2003, 10:21 AM
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Cast SideWinder is SOOOO close :)
Heres the first prototype. This hasnt been touched by us AT ALL, except for the head flange, which we had to drill/face so that we could mount it and get the correct turbo positioning from the crossover pipe. So, heres the pics, some good, some bad. Tell me what you all think!
From the bottom of the engine/car:
I couldnt believe how awesome the collector area turned out! Absolutely impeccable.
Other general pictures of the runners, etc.
From the bottom of the engine/car:
I couldnt believe how awesome the collector area turned out! Absolutely impeccable.
Other general pictures of the runners, etc.
11-01-2003, 10:26 AM
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well, its pretty much IN production. We want to get at least a couple tests to make sure the thing actually works(I cant see how it wouldnt) 
Then, itll be good to go!
Look for a kit in the very near future for ALL B series engines(in ANY car
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Then, itll be good to go!Look for a kit in the very near future for ALL B series engines(in ANY car
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11-01-2003, 10:41 AM
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Id like to hit sub-$500, but we will see. Righ tnow, Ive got over $600 per piece in JUST COSTS. But first runs are always $$$$
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11-01-2003, 11:00 AM
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Re: (civictypenos)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civictypenos »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is that last pic for the wastegate?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes, a better pic is coming, itll be on the car though C-clamps 0wnz m3
yes, a better pic is coming, itll be on the car though
C-clamps 0wnz m3
11-01-2003, 12:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SasquatchMS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bad ***, Cody...bad ***!</TD></TR></TABLE>
how much does that beast weigh?
how much does that beast weigh?
11-01-2003, 12:17 PM
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around 25lbs...same as my other manifolds. This is just ductile iron too, to keep costs down for the prototypes. By the looks of these pictures, the crossover tube needs to be redesigned, because that radiator looks a lil tighter than I like. What do you think? With this manifold, youll have to splice in a bit of metal anyway....I need some feedback! 
AH the joys of this ****.
AH the joys of this ****.
11-01-2003, 12:23 PM
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man, it looks like u'd be melting rad hoses! Also, that "extension" piece looks kinda funky with that big square on it where it mounts to the mani.. any chance that is going to be made smaller or something?
11-01-2003, 12:28 PM
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"splice in some metal hoses" that prevents the melting
yes, we will probably go with a smaller circle flange, or maybe even a t3 style, long and skinny. notice the "SOOOO close." Doesnt mean its done, just alot closer than in August
yes, we will probably go with a smaller circle flange, or maybe even a t3 style, long and skinny. notice the "SOOOO close." Doesnt mean its done, just alot closer than in August
11-01-2003, 12:41 PM
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oh, u didnt say hoses, u just said metal... now i get it. I know they arent done yet, thats why i asked if that part was going to be changed. Anywho, that thing looks great! I cant want to see the final production
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Re: (civictypenos)
Its looking good so far.. I don't wanna sound negative but I'm not sure what your goal is in making it? at first I thought it would be the same as your sidewinder but this is alot different. It really looks like an upside down inline pro with a long extension on it. Will you be doing some performance tests before you go into production? Again I don't mean to sound negative.. I'm just curious what market your shooting for? Performance? Cost? AC?
11-01-2003, 03:17 PM
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Re: (Tinker219)
Good luck Tinker! Looking good but why didn't it get cast like the non cast sidewinder with individual runners all the way up to the collector to the turbo? Was it too hard to cast?
11-01-2003, 05:39 PM
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we will have flow #s very soon, I can assure you, each runner will flow VERY well.
The goal was to have an AC compatible manifold that could EASILY fit a 3 inch downpipe, and that would ALSO support large amounts of power, all while having virtual ZERO backlog(me, who is booked past thanksgiving on welded tubulars).
This will flow virtually no differently than any of my other manifolds, despite the cross over pipe coming from the collector. The cylinders dont fire all at once, so where is the restriction? Based on what Ive seen so far(and blown with the air compressor ), the turbo is the resriction, which is exactly what you want!
Now, for the cracking and falling off comment. If the manifold is not braced, it probably will. BUT, each manifold will come with a brace, as well as a radiator hose bybass. The brace will bolt to the turbine housing, and then to the transmission(the factory chain link bracket is either replaced/or paired with the brace).
The next MAJOR goal of this manifold isto produce a complete kit, which will be available by spring of '04.
The goal was to have an AC compatible manifold that could EASILY fit a 3 inch downpipe, and that would ALSO support large amounts of power, all while having virtual ZERO backlog(me, who is booked past thanksgiving on welded tubulars).
This will flow virtually no differently than any of my other manifolds, despite the cross over pipe coming from the collector. The cylinders dont fire all at once, so where is the restriction? Based on what Ive seen so far(and blown with the air compressor
), the turbo is the resriction, which is exactly what you want!Now, for the cracking and falling off comment. If the manifold is not braced, it probably will. BUT, each manifold will come with a brace, as well as a radiator hose bybass. The brace will bolt to the turbine housing, and then to the transmission(the factory chain link bracket is either replaced/or paired with the brace).
The next MAJOR goal of this manifold isto produce a complete kit, which will be available by spring of '04.
